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cu015170
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Posted: 2013-10-23 03:20
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Yes, 4 HAAC microphones.
false_morel
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Posted: 2013-10-23 17:23
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http://www.thephoblographer.c[....]niaturization-and-diffraction/
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Seriously, what is this?! Trying to win the all BS photography blogging on the internet?
I passed over this link the other day, but have just read it now.
It's nauseating to read such low quality articles. Why do these people even bother to write.

Yes pushing MP count by itself is theoretically stupid to do.
But fortunately we are out of the MP race for a while now.

But doesn't mean that by time as technology advances MP be kept fixed on a certain density!

Sensor technology is still advancing quickly. As the blogger mentions the 36MP D800 and blames it for making MP count a trend all over again, couldn't he think why Nikon couldn't pull such a high MP before?! That why the heck they would risk all their reputation for releasing a professional DSLR with such a big flaw?!

Same as processors are not just about GHz and number of cores, sensors are not just about size and pixel density.
There is a lot more going on with the tech making out a sensor.

Today's sensors with same or small sizes, and much higher densities pull way better detail, noise, DR, and color depth performance!

A 24 MP APS-C sensor in 2012 is thousands of miles ahead in performance to a 10 MP APS-C sensor from 2006. Significant difference. Nowadays 1" sensors are better than APS-C sensors from few years ago! We're talking about less than half the size here and also few more MPs.

Same applies to the 808 and 1020. With smaller size and hence higher density the 1020 pulls better noise and detail.

Yes theoretically higher density (smaller microns) mean less signal-to-noise ratio, but if the these smaller photosites are able to collect more light and hence more information than those on older sensors then this lesser ratio is countered pretty well. It's not just about BSI. The technology making these sensor and these photosites advanced and reaches new milestones and higher accuracies with time.

And then he talks about diffraction! And he claims that with big sensors diffraction is no problem! This is nuts!
Diffraction has way more to do with aperture and lens quality! At certain aperture where diffraction is contained, it doesn't matter anymore how small the photosites are! On the other hand, push the best lens in the world up to F/22 and experience the vast drop in sharpness!

At big aperture it's rarely a problem unless the lens is rubbish.

Cameraphones are now equipped with up to a full stop aperture than the older F/2.8 standard.
At such big fixed aperture, diffraction can not be a problem.

Sylwester
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Posted: 2013-10-23 19:46
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On 2013-10-23 00:41:56, Bonovox wrote:
This is awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]&list=UUDMnCGlkv4gyFGZo_ZT3atg




Great stabilization, the next step of progress of Nokia
cu015170
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Posted: 2013-10-23 23:45
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OIS should be the same as the one on the 1020.. but it might be easier to stabilize a smaller module

- The sensor size is smaller: 1/2’5″ (25mm2) instead of 1/1’5″ (50mm2).
- Pixel technology is the same as on the Nokia Lumia 1020: 1.12um BSI Toshiba.
- The 20MP sensor shoots 19MP in 4:3 and 17MP in 16:9
- The camera offers 2x “hi-resolution” (= lossless) zoom in 5MP (3x in 1080p video).
- Optics design is the same as in the Lumia 1020: 1 glass + 5 plastic lenses.
- Aperture: F2.4 on the Lumia 1520 (F2.2 on the 1020)
- OIS is the same system: Barrel shift with 1/3s in auto mode
- Low light (module SNR10): 14 lux (9 lux on the 1020)
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Posted: 2013-10-25 12:51
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Lumia 1520 or Lumia 925 , I think both mobile similarly same
http://souqmobi.com/mobiles/nokia-lumia-1520/
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king-james
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Posted: 2013-10-28 02:06
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the screen beats all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAuuJ0qSAuY
like.no.other
cu015170
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Posted: 2013-11-04 21:47
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^ so you are registered since 2007, but your nick name is king james.. LeBron wasn't even playing for the Heat back then

Either way.. this is one big phone

next to the htc one

Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2013-11-04 22:01
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Lol
You can ask the mods to change your username here, there's a topic for that. In 2007 my username wasn't what it is now either.
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Posted: 2013-11-04 22:06
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I find this phone very tempting - I wonder when it will be available....and the price
cu015170
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Posted: 2013-11-04 23:07
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On 2013-11-04 22:01:57, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Lol
You can ask the mods to change your username here, there's a topic for that. In 2007 my username wasn't what it is now either.



ah.. I see I thought he/she might've had some crazy psychic vision back in 07
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Posted: 2013-11-05 01:08
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On 2013-11-04 22:06:54, aussieland1 wrote:
I find this phone very tempting - I wonder when it will be available....and the price


you've gone phablet crazy, 1st the Mega, then the N3 and now this?

cu015170

all good. OT, I saw the game against the Brookly Nets this past week, they had King James and D-Wade working up quite a sweat!
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Posted: 2013-11-05 07:18
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tsepz

I never had the Mega- by the time the price was decent enough N3 came out.... But yeah i am phablet crazy. 😊

OT don't worry about king james- Miami started a bit slow but i am sure they will be back- last year they had a 26-27 win streak?
cu015170
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Posted: 2013-11-07 19:43
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I am liking the color reproduction on Lumia Black... it kind of looks like this photo was taken with a Symbian phone They kind of lost some fine detail, but noise/grain levels are looking better than any other WP out there.



Can't wait to see what the black update will do for the 1020.. since it does need quite a bit of work.

more here, all pureview clicks. I would guess that if you take them in RAW and do the work yourself you will get better results in the 8Mpix range.

http://cdn.conversations.noki[....]0928_09_45_35_Pro__highres.jpg

http://cdn.conversations.noki[....]0927_13_36_03_Pro__highres.jpg

http://cdn.conversations.noki[....]0926_15_55_47_Pro__highres.jpg
cu015170
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Posted: 2013-11-08 06:54
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I downsized a few to 8Mpix.. I like what I am seeing here. Go lumia black

https://isz3hg.bn1.livefilest[....]uQhubev6DNugQYbnZtmUk/1520.jpg

https://isz3hg.bn1.livefilest[....]tmeRHAIoSVYwv9g9CJg/1520_2.jpg
Bonovox
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Posted: 2013-11-18 17:22
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Here's a decent review and it looks stunning that screen as usual with Nokia screens.

http://m.wpcentral.com/lumia-1520-review
Phone?? What phone??
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