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-XYZ
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On 2013-10-18 16:47:02, king-james wrote:
On 2013-10-18 15:43:14, DACHA wrote:
4.4" 1900x600 (413 PPI) panel
This can't be correct. It would be look then more like a long remote control. 
I hope Sony won't go with OLED panels. LCD look way better IMO. OLED/AMOLED have fake colours. Only the deep black is great, nothing more...
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-10-18 15:50 ]
Its how you calibrate the display to be honest. OLED displays are capable of phenomenal colour accuracy and colour gamut. Don't you remember the Sony XEL-1 OLED TV from 2008?
Also, 1600x900 is the exact same Aspect Ratio as 1920x1080, or 1280x720 (16:9), so I don't know what you mean when you say, "It would look like a long remote control"....It would look the same as current displays. |
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Ricky D
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It is interesting where they're sitting with Z Ultra. I can't say I've seen any in the wild, but I an considering getting one for my dad. He could do with the extra functionality of stylus input and bigger screen and he carries his phone in is top shirt pocket or jacket pocket so the size isn't an issue. I do see many people in Beijing with Notes, and most of them carry the device in their jacket pocket or just in their hand. China is a very showy place though, bigger is better and displaying your wealth is the norm.
I'm still interested in news on Tab Z 2. Stylus input newest chipset and short announcement-release is important. I think for Sony to really start to gain traction they need to make sure that their US releases aren't as delayed as they have been. After all, all the big voices in tech reviews are over there and they are the ones who dictate to the masses.
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On 2013-10-18 22:40:57, -XYZ wrote:
On 2013-10-18 16:47:02, king-james wrote:
On 2013-10-18 15:43:14, DACHA wrote:
4.4" 1900x600 (413 PPI) panel
This can't be correct. It would be look then more like a long remote control.
I hope Sony won't go with OLED panels. LCD look way better IMO. OLED/AMOLED have fake colours. Only the deep black is great, nothing more...
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-10-18 15:50 ]
Its how you calibrate the display to be honest. OLED displays are capable of phenomenal colour accuracy and colour gamut. Don't you remember the Sony XEL-1 OLED TV from 2008?
Also, 1600x900 is the exact same Aspect Ratio as 1920x1080, or 1280x720 (16:9), so I don't know what you mean when you say, "It would look like a long remote control"....It would look the same as current displays.
Oops, read it again -XYZ. 
Plus, it could be a typo. Most probably 1900x1600.
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On 2013-10-19 02:45:16, Ricky D wrote:
(EDITED) I think for Sony to really start to gain traction they need to make sure that their US releases aren't as delayed as they have been. After all, all the big voices in tech reviews are over there and they are the ones who dictate to the masses.
Well said, and I completely agree. The delay this time around is not Sony though ... its the US carriers and their befuddled testing being so slow - testing = branding!
For example ... for the first time in 8yrs Canadian carriers (Telus & Bell Mobility, Rogers Wireless) will be releasing the Xperia Z1 in 3 colours (White, Black, and Purple - the latter is respectively; I'm unsure who gets Black/White) roughly 30 days before any US carrier which I'm VERY shocked about!
Very cool.
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On 2013-10-19 07:11:28, itsjustJOH wrote:
On 2013-10-18 22:40:57, -XYZ wrote:
On 2013-10-18 16:47:02, king-james wrote:
On 2013-10-18 15:43:14, DACHA wrote:
4.4" 1900x600 (413 PPI) panel
This can't be correct. It would be look then more like a long remote control.
I hope Sony won't go with OLED panels. LCD look way better IMO. OLED/AMOLED have fake colours. Only the deep black is great, nothing more...
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-10-18 15:50 ]
Its how you calibrate the display to be honest. OLED displays are capable of phenomenal colour accuracy and colour gamut. Don't you remember the Sony XEL-1 OLED TV from 2008?
Also, 1600x900 is the exact same Aspect Ratio as 1920x1080, or 1280x720 (16:9), so I don't know what you mean when you say, "It would look like a long remote control"....It would look the same as current displays.
Oops, read it again -XYZ.
Plus, it could be a typo. Most probably 1900x1600.
Can't be 1900x1600. That aspect ratio has never been used. |
king-james
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Maybe DACHA mean 1600x900. 1900x600 is impossible ratio...
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DACHA
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On 2013-10-19 17:53:29, king-james wrote:
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Maybe DACHA mean 1600x900. 1900x600 is impossible ratio...
I copied that from the source article. Must have been a typo. |
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hmm 1900x600 4.4 is 452ppi, but 1600x900 is 417ppi. In article say 413. Very crazy  |
DACHA
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@ razec
I do not think that Sony will use OLED displays in 2014. As far as I know Triluminos technology cannot be combined with OLED tech. If I am wrong feel free to correct me.
It think the Z2 will have a 5" IPS Triluminos display just like the Z1f. |
amirprog
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Yeah. Sony will probably not use OLED for flagships in 2014 because there is not even scheduled production for that JDI's 5.2 inch flagship OLED display yet: http://www.oled-info.com/japa[....]t-build-pilot-amoled-line-2014 . OLED display will probably won't be coming from AUO either: http://www.auo.com/?sn=107&lang=en-US&c=9&n=1505 . No production schedule reports there either. it seems that sony waits until OLED will evolve a bit more. maybe in 2015 it seems.
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On 2013-10-19 02:45:16, Ricky D wrote:
I think for Sony to really start to gain traction they need to make sure that their US releases aren't as delayed as they have been. After all, all the big voices in tech reviews are over there and they are the ones who dictate to the masses.
I don't know what you mean by ALL the big voices in tech reviews are in US which dictate to the masses(I hope it doesn't include any other country except USA itself)?
I believe that there the mobile market is only dictated by the mobile networks and not by the individual brands like Samsung, SONY etc. If the networks want to sell it the people there have to buy the same thing without much choice.
Here in India, handset instead of mobile network is what matters the most. So, at the end of the day mobile companies knows that giving money to mobile networks is not going to work. But, they would need to be competitive not only on the price front. But, also on the hardware and software specifications.
And that's why these big companies cannot afford to be lenient with us. They are always on there toes and make sure that we get the latest and the best in order for them to survive.
It really doesn't matter what reviews any other country(even US) gets out. As they are irrelevant for us. And for majority of the world countries where the networks are not dictating the sales of mobiles! |
Ricky D
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@redhotiron
Perhaps my slightly throw-away statement was misleading. What I meant was that the majority of smartphone buyers will research their options online before even seeing any of the perspective handsets in-hand (simply because the internet is always much more convenient). The tech sites dictate opinion, the people buy what is available dependant on network and region availability.
During their research they will be met by 2 different types of resources: the manufacturers website (which will be obviously single sided in favour of the product) and the tech blog/website offering reviews and comparisons (supposedly unbiased). From these tech reviews many buyers will gain their first and most lasting impression of the devices in that price/size range and most of those will make 80% of a decision of which handset they will buy. This is all before they have even handled any of the devices in person with any serious interest.
I'm not talking here about the non-tech savvy masses only, but as far down the line as here in a fairly specific enthusiast forum, many of our impressions of new devices are derived from reviews, low quality hands-on vids and second hand info. How many here have held and played with Z Ultra and seen it side by side with Z1? But how many here can say they 'know' the Z1 screen is not quite as good?
Of course there are exceptions, some people change buying habits specifically to circumvent this effect, but the big tech sites form the popular opinion and until Sony can win over the US they will not be taken seriously in the same bracket as Samsung and Apple.
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supercoolman
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just add to Ricky D's point
I failed to convince many people to consider Z1 due to the following reasons.
1. price tag
2. doesn't come with charging dock with that premium price
3. review sites talk about it's very easy to not seal those waterproof flaps properly hen charging
4. review also said 99.99% of the time, sony refuses to warrant any phone damaged by water got in from any of the flaps
their mind got set to charging without dock will most likely destroy waterproof, so sony is out of their consideration with a premium price tag |
pmugghc
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Z1s is the international version of Z1f?
http://www.tuttoandroid.net/cellulari/sony-xperia-z1s-z1f-150719/
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redhotiron
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On 2013-10-20 04:30:20, Ricky D wrote:
@redhotiron
Perhaps my slightly throw-away statement was misleading. What I meant was that the majority of smartphone buyers will research their options online before even seeing any of the perspective handsets in-hand (simply because the internet is always much more convenient). The tech sites dictate opinion, the people buy what is available dependant on network and region availability.
During their research they will be met by 2 different types of resources: the manufacturers website (which will be obviously single sided in favour of the product) and the tech blog/website offering reviews and comparisons (supposedly unbiased). From these tech reviews many buyers will gain their first and most lasting impression of the devices in that price/size range and most of those will make 80% of a decision of which handset they will buy. This is all before they have even handled any of the devices in person with any serious interest.
I'm not talking here about the non-tech savvy masses only, but as far down the line as here in a fairly specific enthusiast forum, many of our impressions of new devices are derived from reviews, low quality hands-on vids and second hand info. How many here have held and played with Z Ultra and seen it side by side with Z1? But how many here can say they 'know' the Z1 screen is not quite as good?
Of course there are exceptions, some people change buying habits specifically to circumvent this effect, but the big tech sites form the popular opinion and until Sony can win over the US they will not be taken seriously in the same bracket as Samsung and Apple.
Yes, People will research the internet for reviews and there was a time when there were fewer sites. Now, the regional sites have taken over and those kind of tech sites have mushroomed all over the world. So, single country domination(US) on the net is not possible now. I am not against US or the fact that people there want better and latest handset available by any manufacturer in the market.
But, the fact is that the system which you have developed is the biggest culprit that makes it possible for the mobile networks to sell an inferior product over a superior product. I have read articles in the past on how a lot of good mobiles and handset makers faced difficulties(even perished) without he help of mobile networks. Some very good models never got the attention and sales that they deserved because the network didn't support them.
Companies like SONY would never succeed without the network's help. And they don't need to release the latest handsets to have good sales because of network's monopoly.
Sony was considered as better than Samsung here in India before. Now, they are pretty much even here in India. The biggest looser have been Apple as both these companies have eaten the majority share of Apple customer.
However, in US Samsung and Apple are a rage. They have strong network ties. I don't think Sony actually eyes US as a huge market with many potential customers as it's pretty hard to get in there. Because of network's monopoly. |
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