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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:04
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^^ if its even a fight, right now i fear we (esato) as usual will be grossly disappointed and will rationalize the delta. much the same way we did within the thread about the size of the sensor.. i highly doubt that either the 1020 or Honami will win all categories of photography. It says a lot about the 1020 if it is the benchmark with which other devices are measured. but there arent many ppl who want to use WP over iOS or Android, this case specifically Android. Is anyone going to correct the blogs on hand that the 'press photo' is shopped seeing as how the background pictures are from other sources? Although its hard to wait, its best not to swallow everything from everywhere. Still dubious about the 4K coupled with 16GB (HEVC/H.265 is ready, and VP9 is used in Chromium) but even still play back would be limited. HEVC does allow supoprt up to 8K though which is cool.
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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:04
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On 2013-08-20 14:28:42, DexterMoser wrote:
@AbhiD999:


I'm pretty sure he was not talking about this picture.
He was talking about the leaked picture taken with the Honami by our japanese friend who's living in china (that should be right )
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-08-20 13:29 ]


heh. I know it's not important, but since you mentioned he's from Beijing, then I'm not sure now. I assumed he's a Japanese because I remember seeing Japanese words in the photo, so I jumped to the gun that he's Japanese. Doesn't matter anyway Now I'm not really sure about his ethnicity.
Let's stick to rumours.

This is one of the photos I'm talking about
http://up.xperian.ir/images/05171870284884581637.jpg

(I'm new here so I haven't figure out how to post pictures)
[ This Message was edited by: xfan on 2013-08-20 16:10 ]
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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:11
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Z1 Benchmark Score



GSMArena Posted this
LOL

Lower is better =.=
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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:15
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those benchmarks make me laugh..

so the 3 yr old galaxy S3 is almost twice as good as the S4 and other new devices? come on now..
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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:15
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Benling any new information,we are hungry now more than ever
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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:23
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With all the leaks spreading here and there, Honami have just become Sony's worst kept secret
10 years at Esato
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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:24
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Am I the only one that has been waiting for Xperia phone with display size above 4.5", rounded soft-touch back with 2MP front camera on top front (not bottom front) ? It seems like this phone will not exist in 2013, and even the supposed rumoured first Xperia in 2014, the Ray 3 will not have the 'specs' that I'm waiting for too.

Right now all the soft-touch back 2013 Xperias have VGA front camera, except the ZL which have it at the bottom.

Hope to read one day about the rumours that I'm wishing for
[ This Message was edited by: xfan on 2013-08-20 16:26 ]
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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:27
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On 2013-08-20 17:15:30, moogoo wrote:
those benchmarks make me laugh..

so the 3 yr old galaxy S3 is almost twice as good as the S4 and other new devices? come on now..




Hmm 3 year old S3? its one year old
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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:40
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Higher means better ...
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On 2013-08-20 16:08:02, moogoo wrote:
i think it's funny how cu01 always jumps in to defend nokia, even though no one is asserting honami is better, just that it would be an embarrassment for nokia IF, honami ends up producing better photos than 1020, WHICH cannot be really determined without final units and proper photo testing procedures as used on dpreview. (yes i said that all in one breath)


I am not defending them.. my posts usually come from a pure technical perspective, if Sony were using the bigger sensors instead of Nokia, I would say the same thing in reverse.

Also, I am not really a fan of the 1020.. I see as a compromised 808 because of the smaller sensor.

But honestly, I am disappointed that Sony decided to cater to the masses and didn't produce a proper camera phone.. I was really hoping for one that is also water proof. I guess we will have to wait for that to come from either Sony or Nokia. I really wanted the z1 to use a huge sensor with fat pixels...

And full disclosure, yes... I am member of this forum because I really liked Ericsson as a company, not Sony. I have nothing against Sony.. just saying.

And finally, yes.. I do love my 808 because its simply an awesome smartphone.


On 2013-08-20 16:44:50, DexterMoser wrote:
@pocketnow article:

Yeah, that's exactly the same thing I'd say to those 4K haters


@cu015170:

Just to clarify, I was just saying that Honami will be better than GS4 Zoom.

GS4 Zoom looks really crappy even compared to the normal S4:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccm[....]25&idPhone2=5447&idPhone3=4577
There's no 1020 in that list, but clearly the 808 destroys them both.

Old sony cybershot cameras with old sensors (18MP) and the mighty 808 also destroy the GS4 Zoom (16MP):
dpreview comparison

Therefore my educated guess is that Honami also will destroy the GS4 Zoom.

Honami vs 1020?
That definitely will be an interesting fight, we shall see
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-08-20 15:52 ]



Ya, I was just addressing your mention of pixel sizes.. The GS4 zoom is a waste of plastic if you ask me... there is plenty of room for a much bigger sensor. I also think that the Z1 will outperform it in daylight conditions, but the xenon on the Gs4 zoom is rather powerful..so it will probably do better at night.

As far as the 1020 vs. Z1.. ya.. my money is on the 1020 simply because of the sensor sizes.
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Posted: 2013-08-20 17:51
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^ Ok that's good, I agree that we agree




(my money is on Honami, just for the sake of the discussion )
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-08-20 16:51 ]
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Posted: 2013-08-20 18:01
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On 2013-08-20 17:24:59, xfan wrote:
Am I the only one that has been waiting for Xperia phone with display size above 4.5", rounded soft-touch back with 2MP front camera on top front (not bottom front) ? It seems like this phone will not exist in 2013, and even the supposed rumoured first Xperia in 2014, the Ray 3 will not have the 'specs' that I'm waiting for too.

Right now all the soft-touch back 2013 Xperias have VGA front camera, except the ZL which have it at the bottom.

Hope to read one day about the rumours that I'm wishing for
[ This Message was edited by: xfan on 2013-08-20 16:26 ]



Sounds like the Xperia T is the phone for you.
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On 2013-08-20 17:51:03, DexterMoser wrote:
^ Ok that's good, I agree that we agree


(my money is on Honami, just for the sake of the discussion )
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-08-20 16:51 ]





it will be fun to watch all the comps once they are both out... I think I said earlier that the sony might be on par during the day, but we will have to wait and see. And to be honest.. even then I don't trust any of them. Just look at all the 1020 vs 808 comps... most of them don't know what they are doing.
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Posted: 2013-08-20 18:06
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On 2013-08-20 17:27:08, sami92a wrote:


Hmm 3 year old S3? its one year old


ha. guess it seems a lot longer ago than it really is
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Posted: 2013-08-20 18:25
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On 2013-08-20 18:06:23, moogoo wrote:

On 2013-08-20 17:27:08, sami92a wrote:


Hmm 3 year old S3? its one year old


ha. guess it seems a lot longer ago than it really is



The caption on the benchmark is wrong, higher scores are better in AnTuTu.
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