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cableguy
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Posted: 2012-05-15 16:42
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dont really understand how the Xperia S doesnt have the same death grip, as it has the same antenna design.
Maybe its just a prototype issue, time will tell though
pt020
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Posted: 2012-05-15 17:34
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He is holding it very tight on the lower part of the phone and provokes it.
It is not the way I hold my phone.
djin
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Posted: 2012-05-15 18:18
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But he is holding it in what seems how you would naturally hold it?

This is from the article,

"Lastly, there's no issue with voice quality and call reception. However, there seems an attenuation issue when it is used indoors. When the phone is gripped with the palm touching the back (see below), the signal bars seems to fall off, but we note that you're still able to make calls but data is affected--web pages' loading time slowed down to a crawl."

Also in the review they say xperia p has better battery life than S ! Thats good news!
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Arne Anka
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Posted: 2012-05-15 18:36
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On 2012-05-15 18:18:55, djin wrote:
But he is holding it in what seems how you would naturally hold it?


Doesn't look natural to me (my hands i usually further up). Nevertheless, a guy in our Swedish Android forum has the phone and did exact same test as in the youtube clip. On his unit with the "death grip" the signal bar just fluctuated between 3 and 4 bars. He only had GSM signal available due to bad 3G coverage in his area.

Either the guy in the clip had a bad unit or there is some other unknown parameters involved in the test.
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2012-05-15 18:41
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Maybe coz the plastic part of the antenna is in the middle of all that metal. Same thing happens with the new HTC One V. Metal seems to play a big part in this Most people when they hold their phones their palm naturally rests towards the bottom where antenna is. Antenna should always be put at the top imo

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Arne Anka
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Posted: 2012-05-15 19:13
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On 2012-05-15 18:41:00, Bonovox wrote:
Maybe coz the plastic part of the antenna is in the middle of all that metal.


Not sure what you mean. The chin at the bottom below the transparent bar where all antennas are located is all plastic to my best knowledge (no metal at all).
Bonovox
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Posted: 2012-05-15 19:20
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I thought the antenna was the see through strip of plastic??
Phone?? What phone??
rog
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Posted: 2012-05-15 21:13
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On 2012-05-14 07:18:13, tyko wrote:
Regarding battery life. Of what I've read so far, battery life is not better nor worse than the rest of smartphones. It will take you through the day. Somewhere in some forum it was stated it had better battery than the Xperia S. Of course I also would have like better battery but I think it will be acceptable.


Battery life is much better than the one of the S. I'm charging the P every second day (vs. every day on the S) with about the same usage pattern (3g on, display set to bright, 15 minutes pull on mail accounts, FB and weather widget, background data on, 2-3 hours of music, 15 mins. calls, 10 SMS, 30 min. web browsing, 8-10 hours connected to WiFi).

Regarding Sony's "Antennagate": never happened to me in real life so far that a connection was dropped. A lot of fuzz about nothing (is it summer vacation time already??)
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Arne Anka
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Posted: 2012-05-15 21:14
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On 2012-05-15 19:20:00, Bonovox wrote:
I thought the antenna was the see through strip of plastic??


No, that's just the wires connecting the antennas with the main body as far as I know.
Bonovox
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Posted: 2012-05-15 21:27
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@rog how on earth do you get better battery from a smaller 1,305mAh??
Phone?? What phone??
tyko
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Posted: 2012-05-15 21:36
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On 2012-05-15 21:13:04, rog wrote:

Battery life is much better than the one of the S. I'm charging the P every second day (vs. every day on the S) with about the same usage pattern (3g on, display set to bright, 15 minutes pull on mail accounts, FB and weather widget, background data on, 2-3 hours of music, 15 mins. calls, 10 SMS, 30 min. web browsing, 8-10 hours connected to WiFi).


Sounds good! I´m really tempted by this phone. Of course there are "better" phones out there but this one feels really balanced with an extra plus for the camera.
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How do grade the camera? I´ll guess you have been using if for a while now and should know how it performs.

Edit: (dont know what happend to this post:)
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rog
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Posted: 2012-05-15 21:38
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On 2012-05-15 21:27:00, Bonovox wrote:
@rog how on earth do you get better battery from a smaller 1,305mAh??



Smaller screen, white magic saves energy (facts). And maybe the CPU type in the P is more energy efficient? (speculation)
Gud
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Posted: 2012-05-16 10:13
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Another video where the "death grip" is not appearing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]=player_embedded&v=3DUZ0xiIAXA
cableguy
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Posted: 2012-05-16 10:39
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I would agree with rog, on my arc the display uses 40 to 50 % of my battery so on the S that would be more as the screen is bigger.
Anything that reduces the power that the screen uses whitemagic, smaller size etc would allow the designers to use a smaller battery and have the same standby time as a larger less efficient display
djin
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Posted: 2012-05-16 11:25
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@gud,

I hope I am not being paranoid but Its weird that he is testing with the screen protector on, i would like to see it without that you know.. It would be really nice if there wasnt any such problem, P seems to be the best offering from sony imo(if 16gb is manageable)..

@rog,
I was just checking the white paper of P and S and apparently P has very good stanabdy times and music playback time.. But once you use it its pretty low, for example -
Video playback on P - 4hours on S - 6 hr 30 min
Tlk time on P -6hrs on S- 7hr 30min


What concerns me is the battery life when your texting/whatsapp frequently and moderate calls and browsing, and judging from the video playback times, whitemagic might not really be that power saving and probably end up charging more frequently! Under these usage arc usually lasts upto 14-16 hours..
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