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FMW300
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Posted: 2011-12-13 01:21
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I'm assuming there's a trade-off with putting a non-removable battery in a phone? Does this mean they can have a much more powerful battery installed now, as opposed to having a removable one?
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Posted: 2011-12-13 01:39
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On 2011-12-13 01:21:33, FMW300i wrote:
I'm assuming there's a trade-off with putting a non-removable battery in a phone? Does this mean they can have a much more powerful battery installed now, as opposed to having a removable one?



Here's a factually correct response:


On 2011-12-12 15:44:13, Ricky D wrote:
Fixed battery means that they can place the elements of the battery in whatever shape or size they want, not have to put it in a special case of it's own and save on precious cubic mm of volume in the casing.


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Posted: 2011-12-13 01:42
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Some guy in an other forum came up with a good point: I'm confused now. Why they put a non-removable battery and a micro sim slot in this phone but don't give it a non-removable backcover? The only reason to remove it is to put a tiny SIM in it. I think with a little more engineering time they were able to put the SIM slot on the outside, so the phone has no gaps.
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Posted: 2011-12-13 02:28
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I've had a feeling for a couple weeks now that this leaked device isn't in fact the Arc successor but Neo's successor and a better device is being kept under close guard.

This could be the metal version of this device, with a different chipset, which a couple of sources have suggested.

or

(I'm hoping for) A completely different device.

I may be misinterpreting, but, badassmam and rog seem to have alluded that there may be more and to not be disappointed by this, so I'm still hoping for better.
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Posted: 2011-12-13 02:28
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On 2011-12-13 01:42:37, -16- wrote:
Some guy in an other forum came up with a good point: I'm confused now. Why they put a non-removable battery and a micro sim slot in this phone but don't give it a non-removable backcover? The only reason to remove it is to put a tiny SIM in it. I think with a little more engineering time they were able to put the SIM slot on the outside, so the phone has no gaps.
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It seems like they also wanted to conceal the screws and the regulatory information label, hence the back cover.
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Posted: 2011-12-13 02:34
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On 2011-12-13 02:28:21, lolstebbo wrote:

On 2011-12-13 01:42:37, -16- wrote:
Some guy in an other forum came up with a good point: I'm confused now. Why they put a non-removable battery and a micro sim slot in this phone but don't give it a non-removable backcover? The only reason to remove it is to put a tiny SIM in it. I think with a little more engineering time they were able to put the SIM slot on the outside, so the phone has no gaps.
[ This Message was edited by: -16- on 2011-12-13 01:02 ]



It seems like they also wanted to conceal the screws and the regulatory information label, hence the back cover.
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Still make no sense. They have managed to hide it nicely on K850 and Pureness, but why on this?
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Posted: 2011-12-13 02:45
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Has anybody spotted the 3.5mm glory hole on this thing? I mean, I use a bluetooth IS800 headset anyway but a 3.5mm would be nice.

If you notice the back cover has almost no markings on it at all beside the SE ball. Every other design that's like this by SE has Sony Ericsson written down the spine. Which means either Sony cut it out in an effort to reduce the 'Ericsson' part's mind share or maybe the back panel will be sealed and the sim slot moved in the final release and this is just a proto.
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Posted: 2011-12-13 03:55
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On 2011-12-13 02:45:46, Ricky D wrote:
If you notice the back cover has almost no markings on it at all beside the SE ball. Every other design that's like this by SE has Sony Ericsson written down the spine. Which means either Sony cut it out in an effort to reduce the 'Ericsson' part's mind share or maybe the back panel will be sealed and the sim slot moved in the final release and this is just a proto.

Actually, no 2011 Xperia phone has Sony Ericsson on the back, only XPERIA. The 2010 Xperias had it though. The only difference with Nozomi is XPERIA is written on the back cover in portrait, instead of landscape.
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Posted: 2011-12-13 04:06
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On 2011-12-12 20:41:49, rog wrote:

Good thing that screenshot only shows the most boring part of the new UI



Love your little tidbits of info. But is the non removable battery and microsim confirmed?
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Posted: 2011-12-13 05:12
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On 2011-12-13 02:34:40, yuunanase wrote:

Still make no sense. They have managed to hide it nicely on K850 and Pureness, but why on this?



It comes down to how the phones were constructed.

The K850 is held together with plastic tabs: http://www.formymobile.co.uk/Dismantle/k850idisassembly.htm

I don't know about the Xperia Pureness, but it's likely that it's constructed in a similar fashion.

If the LT26's construction is similar to the Ray's, then that would explain why there's a backplate for covering the screws (since it's an aluminum frame with stuff screwed to it).
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Posted: 2011-12-13 06:49
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On 2011-12-12 20:41:49, rog wrote:

On 2011-12-12 15:57:11, smclion102 wrote:
Picture of Sony Ericsson’s new Gingerbread UXP


Good thing that screenshot only shows the most boring part of the new UI


Leak some Pics

have to wait till CES i guess
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What do you guys think of the following article here:
http://www.droiddog.com/andro[....]4g-leaks-in-training-document/
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On 2011-12-13 07:04:23, MNX1024 wrote:
What do you guys think of the following article here:
http://www.droiddog.com/andro[....]4g-leaks-in-training-document/


Hopefully it's, like, an LTE version of an Xperia Play 2.
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Posted: 2011-12-13 09:04
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That article says that it shouldn't be mistaken for AT&T's Play 4G, but surely it wouldn't much different? Just a different radio chipset for Verizon's network. Am I wrong?

@FMW300i You're right! I'm a little red faced now as I never noticed on my Arc that it didn't say Sony Ericsson on the back. This leaked handset does look weird though without any text down the middle.
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Posted: 2011-12-13 10:46
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On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:

On 2011-12-13 00:21:51, disiz wrote:
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE...


Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).

If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).


Are You serious? Try going to a pub for example, and take a good pic there, it's impossible whether it's SUPER HIPER ULTRA Exmor sensor, it may have 30 MPx, it still will need some exposure time to take the pic, in which time the hand will shake this thing like crazy. At best backlit sensor in low light areas can do 1/30s IMO. Xenon flash gives us like 1/250s and even more. With xenon I can take as many pics I wish and I'm sure they will come out fine. With low power LED I have to steady myself, and hope that photo will come out only a little blurry. Xenon is a must. It's funny how I may have the best phone with best camera, but still take worse pics than good old k800i...
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