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razec
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Posted: 2011-08-31 03:29
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if Xenon can't fit on the device why not make it an accessory? I've been waiting for an MXE-60 successor ever since. SE used to have huge portfolio of cool and unique accessories. Sony made NEX series without built in flash and instead add an external module to maintain its size, why SE can't do this is beyond me. also with external flash the product can support multiple devices
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Posted: 2011-08-31 03:41
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I think because external accessories are not as portable and it's one more thing to remember. The idea of external flash accessories go as far back as the T68, hardly a step forward. What we should be asking is that, if alternative technology is available then why is it not being implemented?

Is there no alternative to Xenon? What about Plasma flash or something else that will give a marked improvement in a slim form? It will be breakthroughs such as this that will make a difference.
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Posted: 2011-08-31 05:13
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As i've found, the plasma flash found on some japanese phones were nothing but a glorified LED Flash with a little bit stronger luminance but they are still nowhere near the performance of Xenon flashes, the real plasma bulbs were hot and unreliable and they need separate cooling support to prevent overheating. also they are not power efficient
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Posted: 2011-08-31 11:55
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http://pocketnow.com/android/[....]-beats-audio-class-leading-cam





If SE doesnt step up, HTC is taking the camera throne
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Posted: 2011-08-31 11:59
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Sony Ericsson C901 with xenon flash 13mm thick
Sony Ericsson Neo without xenon also 13mm thick

So I don't think that thickness is the issue here, besides many people can live with thicker phone, as long as it has this damn xenon. Also power consumption is high only when using the xenon, so it's also not an issue. User can choice whether he wants long battery or not. IMO xenon flash costs much to implement in phone, and there is no big market desire for it, that's why it was abandoned But someone somewhere will hopefully see that xenon flash is a must in any so called camera phone. And I will be very glad to buy that phone, one exception though, it must be android
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Posted: 2011-08-31 13:51
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HTC's cameras have mostly been utter garbage. I'm not too optimistic about this one either, despite the specs.
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Posted: 2011-08-31 13:51
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HTC cam class-leading LMFAO!!
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Posted: 2011-08-31 14:30
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Maybe SE is also thinking like that. The pride before the fall. Either way, SE is slacking in the camera department. They should make satio2 with android and good specs
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Posted: 2011-08-31 15:49
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On 2011-08-31 14:30:03, motvikt wrote:
Maybe SE is also thinking like that. The pride before the fall. Either way, SE is slacking in the camera department. They should make satio2 with android and good specs


With all due respect, HTC's camera performance is terrible and it will take a miracle for them to be leaders in this field.

As for SE, they fell a long time ago. SE lost the camera king crown when Nokia released the N86 and haven't recovered to this day. The Satio wasn't bad but the Pixon 12 dashed its hopes of retaining the lost crown. Now we have the arc being voted the best camera device over the SGSII which puzzles me.

I know EISA have set criteria for their selections but the truth of the matter is that the N8 is the reigning king of camera phones.

I'm pretty certain that SE are working on a monster camera phone but the question is are they going to use the best Sony camera on it or go for the cheap stuff.

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Posted: 2011-08-31 16:11
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SONY talking about ARC S!!!!!!

http://www.ifa-tv.de/webcasts2011/sony/index2.html

Or atleast they will show it!!!

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Posted: 2011-08-31 16:33
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Yep. Don't get too excited though...
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Posted: 2011-08-31 16:37
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Sony Ericsson announces Xperia Arc S at IFA, coming in October







Sony took to the stage at IFA 2011 to unveil its latest handset, the Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S. The super-slim device just got a few bumps in features, including a 1.4GHz CPU, a "Reality Display," and the ability to take both 2D and 3D panoramic images.

Developing...
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Posted: 2011-08-31 16:39
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On 2011-08-31 16:33:50, rog wrote:
Yep. Don't get too excited though...





This post will surely disappoint a few, rog. I just hope they have something spectacular for next year if they go past this year unscathed.
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Posted: 2011-08-31 16:41
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I'm sure they have something nice for next year
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Posted: 2011-08-31 16:43
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On 2011-08-31 16:41:44, rog wrote:
I'm sure they have something nice for next year



Are you sure or Your Guessing
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