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On 2011-01-08 11:42:45, pmugghc wrote:
I have no idea how Arc will be priced

Qualcomm's current 1GHz Snapdragon is the muscle that makes the Nexus One so fantastically speedy, but Qualcomm isn't sitting on their laurels—they just announced two new chips that are going to power the next great mobile devices.

First up is the single-core Snapdragon 8X50A, a 45nm chip that's essentially the next version of the 1GHz chip in the Nexus One. It's clocked at 1.3GHz. But what we're really excited about is the dual-core 8X72, which uses two Scorpion cores to achieve 1.5GHz. Luis Pineda, Senior VP at Qualcomm, assures that the 8X72 is suitable for smartphones (not just smartbooks or netbooks) and can handle 1080p video. Both the 8X50A and 8X72 will be out this year, going head to head with the Tegra 2.
Slashgear also corroborated this story

Oh yeah baby, Qualcomm's finally shipping its first dual-core Snapdragons. To whom, is the big question. Its third-generation Mobile Station Modem MSM8260 and MSM8660 Snapdragon chipsets for high-end smartphones -- originally announced in February 2009 -- are now sampling and capable of running at up to 1.2GHz. The MSM8260 supports HSPA+, while the MSM8660 brings support for multi-mode HSPA+ and 1xEV-DO Rev. B. Both integrate GPS, a GPU with 2D / 3D acceleration engines for Open GL ES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1, 1080p video encoding and decoding, a dedicated low-power audio engine, and support for 24-bit WXGA 1,280 x 800 pixel displays. Anybody at Computex care to step forward with a reference design?

Update: We just spoke with company representatives here at the show, and try as we may, we couldn't convince anyone at the company to show off a dual-core reference design. We were flat-out told that the only people at Computex getting a glimpse at the new silicon were prospective customers, though we did manage to pry out a few interesting details about the chip itself and the future of the line. For one, these new chips have two application cores and a single modem core, whereas existing chips have a single application core alongside a single modem core. We were also told in no uncertain terms that an even quicker version of the Snapdragon would be launched before the year's end, and as you'd likely surmise, it'll be aimed at "larger screen" devices -- you know, like slates and tablet PCs.

The good news for those who are awaiting Qualcomm to ship 1.2 GHz Snapdragon devices is that those chips are set to go for a Q1 release in 2011. The bad news is that the more advanced dual-core Snapdragon chipsets are delayed until late 2011.

While Qualcomm was among the first to market with its single-core 1 Ghz processor, the company seems to be lagging behind competitors. NVIDIA has demonstrated multi-core chipsets and the company's Tegra 2 chips are slated for LG smartphones. Additionally, Samsung has recently announced its dual-core Orion CPU. Both Orion and Tegra 2 promises up to 5X the graphics capabilities of current solutions.

On 2011-01-08 12:40:18, Ultimus wrote:
I'd like to applaud pmugghc for arguing against all the whiners here. The Arc has so much going for it (imo) that it's really unfair to want even more and even be disappointed with it without knowing the price. And why? Just because it isn't dual core? What do you even want that for if people are reporting the Arc to be the smoothest Android experience that they've seen so far? That in addition to the promised fast and frequent updates: What more do you want?

I'd also like to add something in regard to the Xperia Play (PS Phone): Sure it's hardware is 'just' normal high end phone hardware, but don't forget that all Android phones up til now run games that are made for 'any' Android phone. There aren't any games that are truly made for one specific Android phone. The advantage of the Xperia Play is that it will be a platform of its own.

The games that will appear on the PlayStation Pocket market of the Xperia Play can be fully optimized to run on that specific hardware, taking advantage of all its features and all the possibilities of the hardware. They won't be held back by older Android versions, lower resolutions, lower available memory, etc. Very specialized engines and development tools can be developed.

I'd bet that especially the exclusive games created by Sony Computer Entertainment's studios (wasn't a God of War game rumored?) will look amazing, better than most if not all other phone games.

Also, those that think April is late for this device: I don't think any big games platform was ever released faster after its first official announcement (which will be in February it seems). You need some time to create hype and a marketing campaign for an ambitious product. We don't know any game titles yet for instance.

Lastly, I think going for lower end hardware will allow for lower (mass market) price and hopefully longer battery life, which is essential if playing games will be the primary use of the device. Using the CPU and GPU to their fullest should not last just 2-3 hours.

Still, we need much more details about the Xperia Play to judge it fully, but whining about it so much already is pointless imo.

On 2011-01-09 02:57:18, KU wrote:
@zub: I give you a 20/20, because it is really impressive and I understand your disapointment . But actually as you are saying that psphone is shit, you said that the outdated hardware from the arc make it a shit phone, in addition to that in the second half of 2011 tegra 3 will make tegra 2 outdated!!! And you can't denie it as Samsung Orion and Qualcom's already do. So you're satement isn't sensible as whatever hardware SE put in this phone after sometimes you are going to say something like "why doesn't SE strike hard with X quadcore, 2gb ram and 64 gb internal memory because Droid does ( )"... Once again I repeat that the arc is excelent because you can do everything (apart video calls ) with it, and in these days the tech advances are 4G fast that even apple shit phones with stuppendus capability can't keep on without software combo's (Itune+mac+iphone+ipod with restriction and optimisations and that's all). So I don't understand why you whine about the xperia play because as I said SE isn't stupid enough to let people letdown their own game center to go for android or nvidia ones because it is the most silly way to go... And a it goes the solution is simple take this consolephone optimised games or go for the micro PC with nvidia ship (give money to SE or nvidia ).
Plus since satio I don't really believe the phone specs leaks (apart from rog, mizzle, se-first and virgile), because the friend/brother/slave (:-P) working at SE always make mistakes, even eldar prefered to show the chinese preview instead of making one.
Anyone has some info about the big front facing camera phone ???

Edit: neocore results xperia arc 63.4 fps and optimus 2X 67fps...
I SE

On 2011-01-09 04:39:02, synn wrote:
FFS, STOP CRYING!

Do you even know what a gaming SYSTEM is all about? DO you know why some games run better on an iPhone 3Gs than say, a Galaxy S which has infinitely better hardware? Because the developer wrote the code for ONE device instead of a dozen.

On 2011-01-09 04:39:02, synn wrote:

The PSP Phone would be a single platform for which gaming code would be written, not one of many. It doesn't matter what is under the hood. Snapdragon, Adreno, whatever (You speak of these like it's second nature to you. Have you even SEEN a Snapdragon up close? But I digress). It could be an old ARM11 and it'd still work swell. Do you know what the hardware specs of the PSP? Look it up and you'll understand that it's doing so much with so little.

On 2011-01-09 04:39:02, synn wrote:

Here's something to think about. It's not just about the hardware. It's about code optimization. Things work so much better when you only have to code for one specific device. I couldn't care less what's under the hood if I could play Tekken 6 well on the device (And yes, it's coming as per some reports).

On 2011-01-09 04:39:02, synn wrote:

People like you are worse than those who judge a book by its cover. You judge 'em by the ISBN tag.

Seriously, FFS, stop whining until it's actually out and you get the feel of ot first hand. We heard you the first 50 times. We don't need to see the whining in every page.