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Cyborg_a0
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Posted: 2009-12-22 11:19
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so its a battle between knowledge and experience.

upon what you did is an expirement, hypothesis and conclusions,
but
to them is based on their experience.
exaflare23
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Posted: 2009-12-22 12:07
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when you are conducting an experiment you also gaining experience.

im always conducting experiment when someone ask me to configure their phones to have a free internet,

downloading in 3G lock

downloading in dual mode

which setting had the fastest result

which setting disconnects most

and im not just experimenting with 1 phone im using my k800i too to compare with the other phone.
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Posted: 2009-12-22 12:17
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when you say experience it means not only once, not twice but many times, i've been reading it for a year this is what they say
'dapat naka3g lock'(must be 3g lock)
till then till now that is what they always say.

I'm only 1yr in fbt that's why i say i only read it for a year, maybe they were doing it for many years.
exaflare23
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Posted: 2009-12-22 13:18
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why don't you prove it by your self?

i know that i can't change you thats why im asking you to do experiment so that you can prove it by your self and not just believing in what you have read,

review the posts in the 1st page

i believe on what centur posted but i still conduct some experiment,its not because i have doubt, its because i want to prove it by my self. I believe for what i've said because i've already done it

read your post

how about you? did experienced it? you just believe in what you have read, you believe but you haven't done or tried it yet
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exaflare23
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Posted: 2009-12-22 13:25
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peace man

im not telling or forcing you to believe me, i want you to try it too because want you to prove it by yourself.
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Cyborg_a0
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Posted: 2009-12-22 13:33
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How could i do that i don't have money to buy a cp anymore
i posted earlier on that i was particulating them not me, i'm just telling their opinion, pity on me i can't tell my opinion because i don't have a 3g phone so i can just tell what others opinion.
i thought you want to know what others think.
exaflare23
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Posted: 2009-12-22 13:50
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Yes you are right i want to see what others opinion and then i'll try it,

my k800i doesn't have 3G lock but i can still do some experiment, you don't need to buy new phone, just like what i've said before that im always conducting experiments to someone who ask me to put opera mini in their phones, its almost everyday in the office.
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Cyborg_a0
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Posted: 2009-12-22 13:57
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maybe its because the people that i was particulating is a nokia users, i was thinking it may affect depending on mobile phone brand.
exaflare23
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Posted: 2009-12-22 14:37
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read my post in page 1 that i've encountered many types 3g phones but i didn't say its only 1 brand, i think your right it depends on the brand because 2 models of nokia outrun my k800i in terms of downloading speed

both in 3G lock and in dual mode settings.

and my k800i can only set 1 setting dual mode

and we need more experiments to prove it

and i noticed something about that 3G lock this is not final but i want to share it to you

my parents lives in carmona cavite philippines, and 3G signal is still weak in some province my mother owns nokia 5610xm and that phone can have the UMTS mode (it means 3G lock) but still the phone can used 2G signals both in data or call even it set in 3G lock mode.

we can't tell if its a fw bug or something but i noticed that the 3G lock and dual mode are the same.

what i mean is even you used 3G lock setting you'll never run out of signal just what dual mode can do,

thats why when im conducting experiments both settings are have the same results.
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Posted: 2009-12-22 14:46
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how bout s60v2 have you tried it like 6630,6680,N70 those phones doesn't have umts but can be 3g lock using ftd, that's the phone that they are using.
I think xm vrs of nokia has many bugs, many reviews that i read about nokia xm isn't that quite good.
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Posted: 2009-12-22 14:53
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Hi guys! I'm from nicaragua, as far as i know 3g was made for high data transfer like video calls, conferencing and mobile streaming. Most 3g phones are identified via dual cam. And since it uses high transmission rate it is favorable in downloading large files, but consumes battery power faster. So
It is on the preference of the user to use it or not, since some of the 3g functions are not being used or enjoyed by the end user. Long live guys!
exaflare23
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Posted: 2009-12-22 16:12
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On 2009-12-22 14:46:00, Cyborg_a0 wrote:
how bout s60v2 have you tried it like 6630,6680,N70 those phones doesn't have umts but can be 3g lock using ftd, that's the phone that they are using.

I think xm vrs of nokia has many bugs, many reviews that i read about nokia xm isn't that quite good.


yes that n70 outrun my k800i too and i think it doesn't need 3G lock because i saw it downloading speed in dual mode

i can't believe it!

so what if my theory is correct haha! others think that they are using 3G lock but its actually a dual mode still need more testings..

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Cyborg_a0
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Posted: 2009-12-22 23:58
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i'm pointing out about stable downloading on 3g lock, if a problem arises about downloading they suggest 3g locking, have you tried already downloading on unstable php proxy just to prove 3g locking is better than dual mode, and also how about comparing dual mode and 3g lock on unstable proxy with the same phone not different phone?

I forgot to say N70 can't be lock thru ftd but thru phoenix.
exaflare23
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Posted: 2009-12-23 02:35
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im using all working tricks in smart network,and both phones must use same proxy to compare the speed

n3120c is a 3G phone that can lock 3G signal and this phone outrun my k800i in all 6rounds of testings. using same proxy same file, n3120c use 3G lock in 1st 3 rounds and dual mode in the last 3 rounds both settings had the same results and this is just the 1st part

the 2nd part i change the proxy and i used CGI

3G lock and dual mode had the same results and im not saying both setting had exact results and this not the 1st time because i have 4 officemates that have the same phones i conducted experiment to their phones VS my k800i in terms of downloading speed and stability

this is just 1 of the 3G phones that i've encountered

i don't know why,how they got the same results.

and again i noticed the behavior of the 3G lock same as what dual mode had, and i don't want to finalize that 3G lock is same as dual mode, i just want to tell what i noticed and im not telling you to believe me because i want you to experience it too.

oh i forgot to say n3120c is not an xpress music dont tell me that it had bugs too
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Cyborg_a0
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Posted: 2009-12-23 02:50
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How about using unstable proxy in downloading? The point here is to see the difference between the two.
Also 3120c is an s40 not s60.

I just can't believe those people that are craving for 3g lock.You know flashing and converting a phone is risky right?

They even flash their phone fw from N70 to N70ie just to have the option of UMTS in their phone.

Why do they risk their phone if 3g locking isn't that valuable upon what your saying?
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