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synn
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By the same yardstick, you're one of the many who haven't seen either the X10 or the Google/HTC whatchamaycallits, but your posts always proclaim them as the winners and the X10 as the loser.
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sealover94
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just take a look at the competition and you will (i hope so) understand ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnBhsTYDqrc
Milestone's present software is way much better than the x10's !Faster and multitouch even with the menu icons...And SE'S is talking about future possible updates to A2.0 ??? 
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On 2009-12-17 11:36:48, synn wrote:
By the same yardstick, you're one of the many who haven't seen either the X10 or the Google/HTC whatchamaycallits, but your posts always proclaim them as the winners and the X10 as the loser.
I've been accused of that a couple of times since I first mentioned the Nexus One - actually I never said the X10 was a failure, all I've said was that if Google are pushing the Nexus One as their own branded handset, then it's going to nab a huge amount of the market previously open to the X10. Becuase it will, that's a "no brainer", to borrow someone else's term.
I don't think the X10 is going to be a bad phone, or without its admirers when it eventually hits the market. What I do think is that, typically, SE have given the appearance of being ahead of the game when announcing this phone last month, when in fact they're almost certain to be overtaken by similar or better competing handsets by the time any of this comes to fruition. Whether the "Nexus One" turns out to be the Googlephone or just an early sighting of the HTC Passion/Dragon etc, either way the advantage the X10 appeared to have last month as the "first" Snapdragon-powered, class leading Android phone is ebbing away even as we speak.
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Different companies have different PR strategies. Nokia likes to announce things early too while Samsung announces things pretty much the day before it's launched. HTC announced the Diamond 2 and touch pro 2 pretty early too, incidentally. Not to forget the original iPhone.
Announcing a product early, releasing teaser/ hands-on impression videos.. it's all part of the game. End of the day, a good product WILL sell no matter what and from what we've seen till date, the X10 looks to be a very good product.
The G1 if you remember, was called the Google phone too and was launched with prominent Google branding. But it had lukewarm sales. Why? Because it was a lukewarm product. The NexuxOne looks way better finished, I'll admit. But The Google name alone won't sell it, trust me.
Sealover: The "Competition" that you speak of is a fancy bootup screen. From a ROM that has already been ported to the Droid and can (And will surely be) ported to the X10 after it's launched. Who's gonna port the X10's camera and sound quality to replace the craptacular HTC options on the NexusOne?
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On 2009-12-17 11:55:47, synn wrote:
Who's gonna port the X10's sound quality
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Sound quality of x10??? I've seen x10 in Athens a few weeks ago... please you really don't want to talk about the sound quality...
I hope &wait .. 2 months left...if there are no further delays..
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I'm willing to make a small wager that the retail X10's sound output would be atleast at par with the recent high-end products from SE.
On the other hand, I haven't yet seen a decent camera or heard decent sound output from an HTC product. |
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On 2009-12-17 11:55:47, synn wrote:
The G1 if you remember, was called the Google phone too and was launched with prominent Google branding. But it had lukewarm sales. Why? Because it was a lukewarm product. The NexuxOne looks way better finished, I'll admit. But The Google name alone won't sell it, trust me.
Disclaimer - all of this is guesswork based on partial information (obviously). But the way I see it, the G1 was a starter model for Android - it had prominent Google branding because it was the public's first introduction to Android and the Google branding would help sell it, but it was also an expressly HTC phone and sold as such. It didn't set the world alight, nor was it meant to - it simply set out Android's stall, to be built on by the better and more interesting handsets that came later on.
The "Nexus One" (note it's not the G2 or any variant thereof) appears to be different - it's the first in a new line. The devices that have been seen carry no HTC branding at all. It's heavily rumoured that the phone will be marketed and sold direct by Google, and Google seem unwilling to deny that. Now put that into the context of the last year's events - Android has NOT seriously threatened the iPhone as yet, the Android appstore hasn't seen the takeup of Apple's (16,000 predominately free apps vs 90,000 predominately paid-for in the iPhone store), Apple and Google have recently separated ties with joint members stepping down from opposing boards etc, iPhone sales remain as strong if not stronger than ever. Many people are denying the possiblity of a true "Google Phone" because it would upset Android's existing partners like SE and Motorola etc, but Google are fighting a war for domination with Apple here, and - in stark contrast to their performance in most other areas of their business - not making serious inroads.
My guess is they've changed tack, and the Nexus One will be a Google product, with the full force of Google behind it, presenting a much stronger proposition to consumers - a single sleek, polished device from a company that's every bit as recognisable as Apple (and let's face it, the G1 was neither sleek nor polished). Ultimately, if it sells like hot cakes, that can only be good for Android partners in the long run as it strengthens the platform as a whole - and if it doesn't, well, if Google can't sell a Google phone who can?
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@synn
Be careful on the sound quality issue. Satio doesn't too good but Aino does sound spectacular.
I am sure you know that already since you own a Satio.
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I hope SE do much better than the previous one.
IF this xperia series failed, than there will be no another xperia series.
All people will claim that xperia is FAILED product.
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On 2009-12-17 13:06:07, chenmartin wrote:
I hope SE do much better than the previous one.
IF this xperia series failed, than there will be no another xperia series.
All people will claim that xperia is FAILED product.
It's strange to think that so far, after the brand was first launched with much fanfare in January 2008, here we are at the end of 2009 with only one Xperia phone having actually made it to market (the X1 back in October 2008), only to be dismissed as an "experiment" by SE months later. Neither the X2 or X10 are going to be with us till 2010. I suppose there's the "Pureness", but that's so niche and seemingly unrelated to its counterparts as to seem irrelevant.
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What i find really funny is, two people going on and on, on the competition, but the devices you mention, is not the X10 worst.
In fact these haven't been announced yet.
Or mentioned in here!
Pretty funny eh?
Or shall i say, sad?
And poor sealover trying to pretend he know stuff, pathetic!
Sending me treats on pm.
I'm leaving this forum, it's mostly just kids in here, trolling, bs, and very few people/post that actually says anything at all.
I think 5% of the post in this tread are actually worth reading. 
To bad.
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When was the last time we had any discussions on the X10?
Well, we are talking about Android here.Android is being jointly developed by Sony and SE and top engineers from Sony are haring their outputs with the ones from SE. I am guessing that the final output would be smoother.
And btw, people who are comparing the Milestone with the X10 should compare the vanilla UIs rather than the mods.The Android in vanilla mode, that runs on the Droid if ported to the X10 will run super fast. All videos that exclude the Timescape and mediascape have been blazing fast. And i am sure by the time it releases there wuld be significant speed improvements. |
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The Milestone has a slower processor and is quite a different phone generally - I don't see it as a direct competitor to the X10 (not least because it's already available and selling well). The X10 has more to worry about the similarly Snapdragon toting competition that will be coming out on or before it in the new year, such as the Nexus One/Passion/Dragon. However it ends up being marketed, it's clearly a near finished product (the FCC certification proves that) and has a few other advantages on paper.
People keep talking about porting this or that Android 2.0 ROM to the X10 - don't forget the standout features of the X10's ROM are just Android apps that are likely to be much easier to port to virtually any Android phone.
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synn
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On 2009-12-17 12:35:00, Dups! wrote:
@synn
Be careful on the sound quality issue. Satio doesn't too good but Aino does sound spectacular.
I am sure you know that already since you own a Satio.
Are you basing this on word of mouth or real world experience?
I play rock/metal/blues on my Satio through some pretty neat headphones and it sounds sweet. The sound separation is as good as my Sansa Fuze.
I wouldn't know anything about hip hop or whatever the cool kids are into these days, however. |
Dups!
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I never rely on word of mouth. Had them both side by side and tested them with similar songs (4 songs) and the Aino is brilliant whereas the Satio is, to say the least, dissapointing.
By the way, I am not into 'hip hop or whatever the cool kids are into these days'
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