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doministry
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Posted: 2009-09-08 00:08
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On 2009-09-07 21:31:18, Prom1 wrote:

On 2009-09-07 13:49:54, i-am-andrew wrote:

On 2009-09-06 21:14:38, Prom1 wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder do we really need a physical keyboard any longer.


For me, a hardware keyboard is what really makes having a phone like this worthwhile. Virtual keyboards use a lot of screen space and I wouldn't want the phone to be much wider than it is. I also avoid touching the screen with my fingers to keep it clean, using a stylus wouldn't give the advantages of a QWERTY keyboard. But maybe I'm just a greaseball!

Everyone has different tastes, but I think the hardware keyboard is one of the X1 and X2's biggest strengths.



That is quote funny.

Physical keyboards - qwerty will takeup MORE space almost everytime on a device! Virtual keyboards can be rotated to portrait mode and then become a T9. X2 will allow a virtual T9 but only in portrait mode I believe.

There are only 2 devices on the market that offer qwerty and are as small or as 'narrow' as just about any regular feature phone using numerical T9 entry: Nokia E71 (which I've owned 3 times and still do as my ONLY mobile) and the BlackBerry 8100 series (Nokia E55 as well).

I know ALL about qwerty keypads on smartphones, as I not only use them exclusively but support them as well (BB's). I'm definately not know to qwerty. But qwerty without a proper text edit, prediction, and library edit for prediction means NOTHING; you get no power except basic character input. If you're unsure look at a few of my older posts on my blog to fully understand.

I'm just at a cross-roads because I've tried typing on the iPhone 3G this past weekend and it gives me the ability to:
press & hold a character, slide to the right one BEFORE entering it in. cannot do this on physical.

Not many physical keyboards on smartphones allow for touch typing (without your eyes fully paying attention to the keys). Sure software based keyboards will possibly never allow this either. However only the BB 8820 was I able to walk through a crowded subway station without ever looking at the device and be able to accurately type a full paragraph in an email. I have yet to accomplish this on the E71 since last August or any other qwerty.

So my point is ... if a software qwerty can be implemented, with piezo feedback on the screen (not silent mode vibration doing feedback), then what do you really need to see the full screen for??
When you're typing an email you really only need to see the following:
* Time & Date
* Network/Data Signal strength status.
* other status notification icons.
* possibly a 1 line scrollable bar showing maximum 10-15characters scrolling for important messages/notifications in text.

You don't need to see a picture of whom your typing to; you've already seen that when replying/composing/forwarding to. You don't need to see the background cool image, your concentrating on the text you're entering. When you need to see a file manager when attaching items at THAT time the keyboard will/should disappear until fully attached; at which point after you can continue composing your message.



Well basically I don't use prediction, ever,
yet never write while walking - odd......

Your preference - OK. That's why we have devices without keyb. on market.

But I will never say that an onscreen comes even close to hardware.
At least with my type of preference.

PLUS - you're a bit wrong.
It's absolutely disgusting for me to WRITE on smartphone and see only
one or two lines of my text 'cos the rest is taken by onscreen keyb.
Oough! I would kill myself. When I write I want to see the context and read my work. So constant scrolling - dumb!
I write more than email on my device - texts, reviews, work with dramaturgy. So I say again:
no keyb = no device.

I'm just hoping all kinds of users will be served,
with or without hardware ctrls.......
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willo
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Posted: 2009-09-08 11:40
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I wonder if this thing will need daily restarts or battery removals/insertions like my X1, or my old P990 for when it locks up.
I may give SE a miss in future and look elsewhere.
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Posted: 2009-09-08 12:00
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My x1 works fine .
Irekomend to not insall to mush betasoftware from XDA many of them make the x1 to lock up and so on..I just use nowdays the software recomended from sonyericsson and i have no trubbel at all.....
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Posted: 2009-09-10 04:18
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Phone Arena preview
http://www.phonearena.com/htm[....]-X2-Preview-review-r_2259.html
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Posted: 2009-09-10 09:57
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Why is it that PhoneArena image samples are always washed out? before its C905, Satio and now X2. GSMArena had far better samples than those sickening picture colours. i wonder what's wrong? the phones or themselves?
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Posted: 2009-09-10 10:08
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On 2009-09-10 09:57:04, razec wrote:
Why is it that PhoneArena image samples are always washed out? before its C905, Satio and now X2. GSMArena had far better samples than those sickening picture colours. i wonder what's wrong? the phones or themselves?



perhaps an older proto my friend.....

older firmware.....

not sure if the EXIF data explains this though....

edit: most reviews/previews ive read have been fairly positive...

so the phone has an older processor. maybe it doesnt need a newer one. id say WM 6.5 is A LOT more efficient than that of WM 6.1
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razec
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Posted: 2009-09-10 10:25
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On 2009-09-10 10:08:43, >500 wrote:

On 2009-09-10 09:57:04, razec wrote:
Why is it that PhoneArena image samples are always washed out? before its C905, Satio and now X2. GSMArena had far better samples than those sickening picture colours. i wonder what's wrong? the phones or themselves?



perhaps an older proto my friend.....

older firmware.....

not sure if the EXIF data explains this though....

edit: most reviews/previews ive read have been fairly positive...

so the phone has an older processor. maybe it doesnt need a newer one. id say WM 6.5 is A LOT more efficient than than of WM 6.1
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2009-09-10 09:10 ]



And its pretty amusing to read GSMArena's statement that 6.5 is clumsy. they haven't even seen the Build 23041 of the OS in which introduced numerous changes and updates. for example the new virtual keyboard which renders SE's own one redundant. well they rather watch this to make their mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH7IuD2aD_4
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doministry
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Posted: 2009-09-10 15:16
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razec wrote:
for example the new virtual keyboard which renders SE's own one redundant. well they rather watch this to make their mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH7IuD2aD_4



Which keyb? It's a HTC one there, and we didn't see any SE's yet..
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2009-09-10 14:17 ]
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mreman4k
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Posted: 2009-09-10 16:27
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Straight from the horses mouth regarding Wm6.5 for the X1.

We picked up on a couple of rumours from yesterday that an official X1 Windows Mobile 6.5 rom had surfaced on XDA developers. Just wanted to be clear that this isn’t true.

There is no official X1 6.5 rom and it’s not in the X1’s product roadmap. There are hackers out there who can do pretty much anything, but unless you’re getting it from the SE update service it isn’t an official Sony Ericsson product.


http://xperiancers.com/2009/09/10/x1-upgrade-not-in-the-roadmap/
jcwhite_uk
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Posted: 2009-09-10 20:05
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Vodafone has announced that the X2 will be exclusive to them and will be available in november.
More info here.
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doministry
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Posted: 2009-09-10 20:33
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On 2009-09-10 20:05:20, jcwhite_uk wrote:
Vodafone has announced that the X2 will be exclusive to them and will be available in november.
More info here.



Interesting what will they do in Poland.
I mean I got X1 (unbranded) from Era = TMobile.

So if Vodafone = Plus.....
Soooo, I will be forced to get it straight from SE?
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supraking
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Posted: 2009-09-12 12:42
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my upgrade was due last month. and i have been holding out for the x2
i was wondering tho. does anybody know how to pre order from vodafone?
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Posted: 2009-09-13 23:45
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This is nice
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Posted: 2009-09-16 12:58
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x2 price confirmed
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Posted: 2009-09-19 16:28
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$1200??!!?? Think I might just get the X1 and maybe go for the X2 in late 2010/ early 2011.
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