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krazzy
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Posted: 2008-10-04 07:04
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On 2008-10-03 11:31:19, jafarq wrote:
I was just about to buy g900 this week. However,reading the latest info about Nokia 5800 specs (and specially its price) I can no longer decide.
What do you think?

[ This Message was edited by: jafarq on 2008-10-03 10:31 ]
Just wait for 5800 and then get it. It'll be worth the wait.

Read this:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-5800-en.shtml
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Posted: 2008-10-04 18:51
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These phones aren't really in direct competition...yet.

The reason for this is that there will most probably be a 30+% difference in the prices for the two phones. G900 is selling for 230 on sites like Plemix and despite the Apple esque marketing of the 5800 as being 279 euros, I suspect when it comes out the phone will be 300+.

I do like the 5800 a lot, the UI looks great, but that kind of price puts it in competition with phones like the Omnia or HTC Touch which it is never going to win.

If however its around 300 I'd get it over the g900 as its worth the extra 70 or so.
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Posted: 2008-10-04 20:18
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I have a G900 and would always choose it. It's not a boring Nokia, it has UIQ, it's smaller and lighter as Nokia doesn't now how to make a small or thin smart phone IMO. The G900 has a better camera and I love it's interface (ignoring the video capture), this is Nokia's first ever touch screen and I have no faith in it, the iPhones interface would crush Nokia's into oblivion, in fact I haven't seen ANYTHING come close to the interface Apple have made, it's what they do best.
Just to add IMO these phones should NOT be compared to each other as they are aimed at different markets and price points. The G900 is not aimed at the music crowd, the Nokia is which means it is directly competing with the iPhone.

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Posted: 2008-10-05 06:43
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I can see Nokia having a really hard time keeping up with the demand of this phone if they release it before or on Christmas. This phone is just too cool to pass up.

G900 is an old and obsolete hardware and platform. I mean the TINY 2.4 inch 240x320 256k touchscreen is laughable compared to the 3.2 inch 360x640 16 mil screen of the 5800XM. Just that is enough for me to buy it over the G900.

Buying an old recycled G900 over a latest better spec'ed 5800XM wouldn't be a very, umm, wise decision.

5800XM FTW!!!
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Posted: 2008-10-05 10:10
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Excuse me but did i read that correctly? Nokia cant make a small smartphone? Ever seen a 6120c or 6220c? The latter makes a P1 look like a oversized brick, it maybe a lil thicker than a G900 but it has HSDPA, 5mp cam with Xenon flash, TV-Out, 369mhz CPU, Symbian S60 FP2 which makes UIQ look old and boring as well as GPS all in a smaller body than a P1 and shorter, and narrower than a G900. You seen the N76? How about the 5320xm? All tiny S60 Smartphones.
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Posted: 2008-10-05 11:07
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On 2008-10-05 10:10:41, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Appolloa
Excuse me but did i read that correctly? Nokia cant make a small smartphone? Ever seen a 6120c or 6220c? The latter makes a P1 look like a oversized brick, it maybe a lil thicker than a G900 but it has HSDPA, 5mp cam with Xenon flash, TV-Out, 369mhz CPU, Symbian S60 FP2 which makes UIQ look old and boring as well as GPS all in a smaller body than a P1 and shorter, and narrower than a G900. You seen the N76? How about the 5320xm? All tiny S60 Smartphones.


Gucci, you're arguing with the blind here. Some people have no sense of size
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Posted: 2008-10-05 13:57
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On 2008-10-05 11:07:22, QVGA wrote:

On 2008-10-05 10:10:41, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Appolloa
Excuse me but did i read that correctly? Nokia cant make a small smartphone? Ever seen a 6120c or 6220c? The latter makes a P1 look like a oversized brick, it maybe a lil thicker than a G900 but it has HSDPA, 5mp cam with Xenon flash, TV-Out, 369mhz CPU, Symbian S60 FP2 which makes UIQ look old and boring as well as GPS all in a smaller body than a P1 and shorter, and narrower than a G900. You seen the N76? How about the 5320xm? All tiny S60 Smartphones.


Gucci, you're arguing with the blind here. Some people have no sense of size


Oh, I remember somebody mentioning something about, that n93 wasn't too big after all
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Posted: 2008-10-05 19:04
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Well some people don't mind the size of the phone... So what. You may even say it about me, i don't have a sense of size (well not that much, but I don't mind alittle bigger phone than the others, not a brick) but I don't care at all... Actually I am looking at the features of the phone when buying, not the design or the size. When it comes to the look of the phone, I want to know the form factor and see if the phone suit my needs. Then if it feels good holding in hand, I would go for it.
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Posted: 2008-10-06 01:17
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On 2008-10-05 10:10:41, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Appolloa
Excuse me but did i read that correctly? Nokia cant make a small smartphone? Ever seen a 6120c or 6220c? The latter makes a P1 look like a oversized brick, it maybe a lil thicker than a G900 but it has HSDPA, 5mp cam with Xenon flash, TV-Out, 369mhz CPU, Symbian S60 FP2 which makes UIQ look old and boring as well as GPS all in a smaller body than a P1 and shorter, and narrower than a G900. You seen the N76? How about the 5320xm? All tiny S60 Smartphones.



G900: 106.0 x 49.0 x 13.0 mm Weight 99.0gr
X1: 110.5 x52.6 x 17.0 mm Weight 158gr
P1i: 106.0 x 55.0 x 17.0 mm Weight 124gr
HTC Touch Diamond: 102 mm (L) X 51 mm (W) X 11.35 mm Weight 110gr
HTC Touch 3G: 102 mm X 53.6 mm X 14.5 mm Weight 96gr

Nokia:
6120c: 105 mm x 46 mm x 15 mm Weight 89gr
6220c: 108 mm x 46.5 mm x 15.2 mm Weight 90gr
N76: 106.5 mm x 52 mm x 13.7 mm Weight 115gr - (Clamshell)
5320xm: 108 mm x 46 mm x 15 mm Weight 90gr

Also 5320 has a 2" screen, 6220c has 2.2" screen, 6120c has 2" screen so ALL are smaller then the G900. All the Nokia's are thicker too but you are right in that they are not too bad otherwise. The point you made about S60 is also in YOUR opinion, it is not fact. And as for the GPS, well if you want to pay Nokia for turn by turn voice instructions then go ahead, and don't you have to download an illegal hacked copy of Tom Tom to get it to work with the built in GPS on any Nokia? I'd rather use a bluetooth GPS thanks and what ever LEGAL sat nav software I want. And just where is the WiFi on the 6120 and 6220? HSPDA pah, I'd rather have lightning fast and free WiFi thanks.
And it also looks like Nokia wants you to use its own music download service too, forcing more of there products on you. But IMO I find pretty much most of Nokia's interfaces very boring, the 5800 looks like a very poor mans iPhone interface.

And so you know, 5800: 111 mm x 51.7 mm x 15.5mm Weight 109gr

If you're talking camera's well the 5800 only has 3 X zoom and 3.2 megapixels, does it have touch focus or a video light or image stabilising, I know the video recording isn't as good but IMO an image stabiliser is more useful. Also the very fact the phone has XpressMusic in the title means it's aimed at the iPhone market which means comparing it to the G900 is pointless, you need to compare the 6120c and 6220c to the G900, similar size and price points. If the 6220 had WiFi then Nokia wouldn't sell any N series phones, if I were to ever buy a Nokia it would be the 6220c but I would have to give up WiFi and a touch screen.

@Dextrr, so you are totally ignoring the fact the G900 has a keyboard then and the 5800 is an entire touch screen phone? The 5800 would be pretty crap with a 2.4" screen and no keyboard would it not?

@QVGA are you not biased and praise everything Nokia? Just remembering some of your posts I've read.

And some women would argue size does matter!!
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Posted: 2008-10-06 02:30
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On 2008-10-06 01:17:57, apolloa wrote:

On 2008-10-05 10:10:41, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Appolloa
Excuse me but did i read that correctly? Nokia cant make a small smartphone? Ever seen a 6120c or 6220c? The latter makes a P1 look like a oversized brick, it maybe a lil thicker than a G900 but it has HSDPA, 5mp cam with Xenon flash, TV-Out, 369mhz CPU, Symbian S60 FP2 which makes UIQ look old and boring as well as GPS all in a smaller body than a P1 and shorter, and narrower than a G900. You seen the N76? How about the 5320xm? All tiny S60 Smartphones.



@Dextrr, so you are totally ignoring the fact the G900 has a keyboard then and the 5800 is an entire touch screen phone? The 5800 would be pretty crap with a 2.4" screen and no keyboard would it not?




Are you trying to say you'd fancy using a TINY 2.4 inch touchscreen over a HUGE and crisper 3.2 inch touchscreen?

Bleh! It's only a numeric keyboard. If it were QWERTY then you're talking.

And the 5800Xm has virtual keyboards (even landscape) with haptic feedback and they look bigger and easier to use than the G900 cramped physical numeric keypad. So the 5800XM still wins.

You seem to care a lot about megapixels. I'd rather have better software and optics over megapixels. Nokia's beaten SE when it comes to picture quality in recent years, I'm sure the 5800XM with it's Carl Zeiss optics will take better pics than the G900.

The G900 is not even in the same league as the 5800XM when it comes to software and hardware!
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Posted: 2008-10-06 02:55
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Well the G900 has a much better camera spec then the Nokia including software. The Nokia has fancy optics but that's it and plenty of posts on here show what SE camera's can do. And I would much rather have a keypad thanks then a cramped virtual keyboard. And my screen is not cramped at all, it's designed for a purpose and the OS is designed for the screen size and looks much better the the Nokia one.

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Posted: 2008-10-06 09:10
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See when you say stuff like "nokia 5800 is a poor man's iphone" its impossible to argue with you, because clearly you have some personal grudge against nokia
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Posted: 2008-10-06 09:38
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ugh..anything is better then an iphone..
even the tube:)
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just thought id pop in quickly.

@dextrr, you said:
"And the 5800Xm has virtual keyboards (even landscape) with haptic feedback and they look bigger and easier to use than the G900 cramped physical numeric keypad. So the 5800XM still wins."


i've no idea how the 5800 virtual keyboard will turn out, but about the g900's keypad, im assuming your just going from what you see in photos? because if you had actually used a g900, you would know its a very good keypad. nicely raised... large keys (not at all cramped)... and very tactile... all making it very comfortable to type with, and fast! maybe you should try it before you bash it.

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Posted: 2008-10-06 18:06
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Apolloa
1s of all here in South Africa NOKIA give use a 2year FREE Navigation license with turn-by-turn nav with every GPS enabled NOKIA with NOKIA Maps so NO i wouldn't pay anything. 2nd if the 6220c missing Wi-Fi is a letdown i'd rather get a N78 which has a 2.4inch 16m bright screen and loads of Multimedia, HSDPA AND Wi-Fi than have an outdated SE G900 which has outdated hardware and can't even handle Full YouTube with its default Web browser.
Anyway its amazing how fanboys get when NOKIA present something great if SE made something like this at that price i bet most if not all would be posting things like "Im leaving my g900 for this!!".
I cant believe he's trying to justify why the g900 is better than this when its NOT. G900 is a 3yearold phone in a new casing, thats it.
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