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Nokia 9310, have se waited too long? |
ShibbyLicious
Joined: Jul 25, 2002
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@gadgetboytom
im wiv u man 100%
 make the p880 sw n fw all perfecto it then gets delievred to network operators to be tested so its compatible and behaves correctly with their network service provisions and services
hence have made the phone it works as it should
netowrks make sure it does work wiv their netowrk - in uk the netowrks are v.complicated n do cause many problems wiv handsets, tis one of the main reasons why they have operator specific sw in them (ie orange specific sw and virgin had specific t68i sw which even had diff default pics)
there is no blame on anyone
there is no fault with anyone
its a process of ensuring the networks relase a handset that functions and integrates with their network 100%
nuff sed
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gadgetboytom
Joined: Feb 12, 2002
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Thank you cheers shibby
you know you try to explain and get insulted its not nice 
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orange
Joined: Mar 13, 2002
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Ok, I try to explain it once again...
Vendor has a new terminal they send it to the operator for their testing. Operator sends it back and says, that it doesn't work properly in the network. You have to fix these and these problems. Vendor tries to fix the problems and send a new software for the terminal. Operator run the tests again and it won't work now either. Operator says now there's these and these problems. This loop goes on until vendor has software that works properly.
So, vendor should do testing and deliver terminals that work properly. Operator only test that the terminal works in their network (acceptance testing). They don't care about the software bugs that are not related to network.
So, my point is that it's vendors job to test their terminals, not operators. |
wrecked_porsche
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That means its a combination of booth ! 
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.  I  Nokia N95 8GB and N82 |
wapchimp
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actually P800 has failed network test by VODA UK - I will sit on the fence for this one - the argument is a bit of both - handset doesn't work network - network doesn't work with phone.
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airevolt
Joined: Oct 19, 2002
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oh...p800 why sooooo long???? nokia has already released a dozen of cool colored headsets!!! ....
This was posted from a P800 |
Super G
Joined: Mar 07, 2002
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Picture from Nokia 9310 here!!
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http://www.nokia.se/digitaltv/support/9310s.html |
gadgetboytom
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ooh you dont know how right you are
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gadgetboytom
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On 2002-11-01 10:06, airevolt wrote:
oh...p800 why sooooo long???? nokia has already released a dozen of cool colored headsets!!! ....
This was posted from a P800
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really? you sure
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dal_l
Joined: Mar 23, 2002
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This testing thingy is something that is very subjective. Vary from operator to operator. Some wouldn't tolerate a single bug while others will just make-do with a few drop calls. I was told that different terminals (made by Nokia, Ericsson, Siemens etc) interpret the signals in so many different ways that it's difficult to test for compatibility. There are cases where a phone is optimised for a particular network but can be erratic under another operator within the same country.
Japan solve this problem by having their very own unique network ... so for the GSM/CDMA clan, it's a problem for the rest of the world to solve ... and hope that the manufacturer debug it sufficiently to satisfy every networks it's suppose to work on. |
gadgetboytom
Joined: Feb 12, 2002
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i agree
we see this sort of thing every year from the big 4
moto nokia and siemens
so many phones dont make it through because of poor internal design
they need to adopt a unified way of thinking
maybe the utms networks wont have these problems
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wapchimp
Joined: Jun 09, 2002
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@Super G - this is the 9410i  - slightly lighter & better battery life.
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