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dr_thug
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Posted: 2006-04-05 09:07
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On 2006-04-05 02:14:44, watermelon wrote:
I believe Sony Ericsson should stick to more of an unique/satisfying plan. When I purchased my W800, I loved it because no one at my school had a phone like the W800. Made me feel like Sony Ericsson's are high class cellphones. But, W700 is coming out. The W810 is being picked up by Cingular. Super special now? Makes me think Sony Ericsson as any other brand.



then go for the W900 or W950 or the 3.2mpx cam phones.u will start liking SE all over again.the company wants u to upgrade and not just stick with ur w800.when i bought my K700,it was exclusive in my coll.now i see a lot of K700 and higher SE models.i am not moaning/complaining coz its almost 1.5 years.

i think this is a good step in terms of business.the company needs to make money and not just satisfy esatonians with ahead of industry feature rich phones.

i personally liked the colour more than the cream-orange combination.i expect many W800 users will buy the fascia and use it.and yes,like chilli said,the cult staus of the W800 will be lost.
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Posted: 2006-04-05 10:11
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Why would SE want market share when they've already stated quite clearly that, that is not what they want. SE would rather run at a profit, like at the moment, over chasing market share. Miles Flint said himself that it would be 'the wrong thing to do' so there would be no need for SE to release phones like the W700, but they have so that may re-raise the question of what SE's real perspective on this is.
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paternoster
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Posted: 2006-04-05 10:35
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On 2006-04-05 02:40:19, max_wedge wrote:
Exactly. You can't expect a mass market handset such as W800/K750 to be exclusive. You need to shell out a bit more dosh if you want that



I'm sorry but I have an other opinion. I have my W800i sice october 2005. In that time I've seen nobody else with a W800. I've seen 1 W900, a few k750. On the other hand I've seen loads of k700, k300, j300 ...
Same for Nokia and Samsung. The cheaper phones are everywhere, the top phones are not.
Of course it's a mass production item, but the cheaper phones are the ones that sell the most. Still think a more expensive phone should have a unique look.

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Arne Anka
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Posted: 2006-04-05 10:39
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On 2006-04-05 05:21:43, coopere wrote:
ok ok what is the point of the w700 really. less smaller memory card, no autofocus, new color.



The point is W700 is probably cheaper to manufacture and hence can be sold cheaper as well.

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On 2006-04-05 05:21:43, coopere wrote:
and what will happen to the w800, will they pull it off shelves? the w800



Will most likely be pulled out (i.e. not manufactured anymore).

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On 2006-04-05 05:21:43, coopere wrote:
and how much cheaper will the 700 be compared to the 800.



What I have seen it will be around 100 USD or so cheaper than W800 today. Lets wait and see.

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On 2006-04-05 10:11:00, shaliron wrote:
SE would rather run at a profit, like at the moment, over chasing market share.



You should realise that the biggest growth of the mobile market occurs in developemnt countries. Not in the Western world. For SE to keep their market share and profit or even increase it (the profit that is) SE has to broaden their profolio with more cheap phones.


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kristianm
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Posted: 2006-04-05 11:13
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What I have seen it will be around 100 USD or so cheaper than W800 today. Lets wait and see.



For only a minimal 256MB difference in MSPD? I don't think W700 is going to be that cheap compared to W800.
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Posted: 2006-04-05 11:42
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yes! i guess it wont be that cheap indeed... but i think its SE's answer to those W800 owners who moans so much about the hiss and all that...

i really haf the gutsy feeling that this is the answer to those quams... the audio in this device which W800 lapses will be rightfully addressed.
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scapevlocity
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Posted: 2006-04-05 12:01
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I think SE went about this the wrong way. I'm not that much of a business-minded person, but if were to a release a cheaper model of the w800, it should have been directed to the younger generation/teenagers (haha as i I'm not one of them), as an alternative option to the w600 (which some find hideous and dislike the non-expandable memory), hence utilizing fascias with more youth-oriented colors (i.e., candy pink, electric green, purple, etc.).

To appeal to the "business-people" they should have just released the same fascias for the w700 they're releasing now for the w800. They can even re-release the w800 as such. Same model #, different fascia. As for a new release of the w800 competing with the w810, I think business people will still gravitate towards the w800 if it's available in the said fascias. The w810's orange will throw them off.
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Posted: 2006-04-05 12:05
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And to make the price of the w700 significantly lower, they should've just gone s700 on it and gave it a 1.3Mp camera. It doesn't have auto-focus anyway, so 2Mp just means a bigger picture. But I guess it doesn't cost them much to choose a 2Mp camera over a 1.3Mp camera? (They just make it seem like it's a big difference so they can justify charging us more money. IMHO, in SE phones, without the auto-focus 2Mp isn't really that much of a diff with 1.3.)
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Posted: 2006-04-05 13:02
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On 2006-04-05 11:13:40, kristianm wrote:
For only a minimal 256MB difference in MSPD? I don't think W700 is going to be that cheap compared to W800.



Its not just the MSPD and no AF that is different. I guess fewer and cheaper components can make the whole production cost for W700 cheaper than W800. So selling W700 for 100 USD cheaper compared to W800 is not unrealistic. But as I said, lets wait and see (there is no official pricing available yet).
kristianm
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Posted: 2006-04-05 13:30
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On 2006-04-05 11:13:40, kristianm wrote:
For only a minimal 256MB difference in MSPD? I don't think W700 is going to be that cheap compared to W800.



Its not just the MSPD and no AF that is different. I guess fewer and cheaper components can make the whole production cost for W700 cheaper than W800. So selling W700 for 100 USD cheaper compared to W800 is not unrealistic. But as I said, lets wait and see (there is no official pricing available yet).



How can W700 get fewer and cheaper components compared to W800 when they basically have the same specs, unless they use components of poorer quality in W700?
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Posted: 2006-04-05 15:00
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PEOPLE, the phone DOES have auto focus:

http://www.imobile.com.au/Future/default.asp?ID=futureapr0601
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Posted: 2006-04-05 16:58
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I sincerely hope that site's got it right on that specs list, ants.

If all the other pre-release info omitted the auto-focus feature for no apparent reason, then this doesn't say too much for anyone in SE's marketing department, as regards ensuring that all the initial info is both included and correct...
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Posted: 2006-04-05 18:13
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On 2006-04-05 13:30:52, kristianm wrote:
How can W700 get fewer and cheaper components compared to W800 when they basically have the same specs, unless they use components of poorer quality in W700?



Let me illustrate with an example. Ericsson Mobile Plattform has a product called U100, which is the plattform used by e.g. SE in their 3G products. To summer they will release U300. U300 is smaller and cheaper although it has more features than U100. What required 7 ASICs in U100 now only requires 4 ASICs in U300. That makes big difference in manufacturing cost. Even exchanging old and obsolete components by new one can reduce the cost as well. Having same or similar spec does not mean they have to be built exactly same way.

That's called technolygy progress (things become smaller and cheaper).

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On 2006-04-05 15:00:23, ants wrote:
PEOPLE, the phone DOES have auto focus:

http://www.imobile.com.au/Future/default.asp?ID=futureapr0601



No it does not. MR and Rog at mobile-review have hold W700 in there hands and have confirmed, no AF.


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Xema
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Posted: 2006-04-05 18:14
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IMO it will be exactly the same phone as the w800i. Reduced price comes from less capacity MSDP and probably a reduction of their profit margin. It would be nonsense to keep both w800i and w810i in the market simultaneously, so simply change the name to w700i and place this model just between the w550i and the w810i in their range. Just a marketing strategy.
marktang
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Posted: 2006-04-05 19:31
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the w700 wont be the same as w800 cuz w700 lacks autofocus so the camera wont be as good. i think that SE did enough market research to introduce this phone. its for those people that wants more cuz the w550/600 is very limited in functions but the w800 is too expensive for some other people. so i think w700 will be great for them. the price range wont be so bad so alot more middle class people can afford it especially in those asia countries where they dont earn alot.
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