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Xperia Z Officially Announced |
rickster2kuk
Joined: Jul 14, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Southampton, UK
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I know it's a prototype and they were indoor samples but the samples from the HTC One posted on GSMArena were nothing to shout about imo. |
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goldenface
Joined: Dec 17, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Liverpool City Centre
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Popped into my local Phones4U before to have a play with the XZ.
The first thing that strikes me is the size / weight ratio. Considering the phone is so big, it doesn't feel overly heavy, in fact it felt quite light for the size.
The phone UI is very fast, slightly faster than the XT. I played a couple of vids from the album and the screen is indeed amazing, hard to see how it could be better.
This is one phone that will need to be cleaned constantly. It has such large shiny surfaces that deserve to be cleaned regularly.
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rickster2kuk
Joined: Jul 14, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Southampton, UK
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I don't understand why Sony don't use that special anti-fingerprint coating that the likes of the iphone use. It really does work. |
worf1000
Joined: Nov 01, 2011
Posts: 265
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On 2013-02-19 17:33:41, mariozlp wrote:
i just canceled my preorder/order(was available from today on expansys) of xperia z because including postage fees i had to pay 711euros. thanks but no.
Watch this review!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xigKO8Q3SQY
The phone screen rocks, really rocks  |
pbhat25
Joined: Jun 22, 2011
Posts: 144
From: Mumbai, India
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^^
That is a very detailed and good review. He does not see any issue with the screen quality...
Sony has to launch this phone quickly... HTC One is a good competition to Sony 1080p XZ. I have to check what is this "UltraPixel: 1/3" 4MP BSI sensor, 2.0" for HTC One and how it is better than Sony's camera option.
[ This Message was edited by: pbhat25 on 2013-02-20 02:56 ] |
buns
Joined: Jan 14, 2013
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is the display calibration software confirmed for XZ? It will be also great if Sony will allow users to have an option to have the image be raw or to be processed  |
Indiandawg
Joined: Sep 18, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Mumbai
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Clearing up the display issue of the Xperia Z
Hello guys! I am making this thread in order to solve the confusion about the display of the Xperia Z. I was a bit surprised today when I saw my rss flooding with the discussion of how crap the display was on the retail models.
To start of I would like to tell you all that both the Docomo variant and international variant of Xperia Z display are the same! They both are using the Renesas R63311 variant of LCDs. Which is using actually Sharp technology for the displays. Yeah it's not made by sony.
http://www.rsp.renesas.com/en/news/2...ws20120418.htm
So the issue of the color saturation between the international model and docomo model is suppose to be the calibration of the values of the display(a configuration in the kernel level).
In short the issue is within the software side and not the hardware so NO it's not true that sony did put cheaper displays on the international version compared to the docomo versions. Cause there's no cheap and premium edition of the Renesas R63311 model.
Now most of you would probably doubt me now on how I was able to tell you this and what are my sources.
Now being a kernel developer and have very solid knowledge with hardwares I would like to show you here concrete proofs of what I am talking about (Kernel developers are welcome to prove my point here)
Here is the kernel config file of the docomo version of Xperia Z
https://bitbucket.org/Don2x/so-02e-s...nfig?at=master
The boolean configs for the display drivers is located in line 398 and 399.
Code:
CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY70=y
CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_SHARP_LS050T3SX01=y
Looking at the Makefile
https://bitbucket.org/Don2x/so-02e-s...file?at=master
the display drivers of those configs basically call out the files
Code:
obj-$(CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY70) += mipi_dsi_panel_r63311_jdc_mdy70.o
obj-$(CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY80) += mipi_dsi_panel_r63311_jdc_mdy80.o
obj-$(CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_SHARP_LS050T3SX01) += mipi_dsi_panel_r63311_sharp_ls050t3sx01.o
Now how can I tell that it is the one used by Xperia Z?
If you view the board files of the Xperia Z the display if defined here.
https://bitbucket.org/Don2x/so-02e-s...ay.c?at=master
Code:
#ifdef CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY70
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_dlogo_02,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_dlogo_2a,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_dlogo,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_1a,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_1a_02,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id,
#endif /* CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY70 */
#ifdef CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY80
&jdc_mdy80_black_panel_id,
&jdc_mdy80_white_panel_id,
#endif /* CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY80 */
#ifdef CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_SHARP_LS050T3SX01
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id_dlogo_01,
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id_dlogo,
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id_1a,
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id_1a_02,
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id,
#endif /* CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_SHARP_LS050T3SX01 */
Now this alone proves that Docomo version indeed uses the display I mentioned. Now how do I prove that it is the same as with the international version? Of course by providing the kernel sources of the international version also.
Now here's the config file for the
International version of Xperia Z:
https://bitbucket.org/Don2x/intl.-yu...nfig?at=master
on line 391 & 392:
CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY70=y
CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_SHARP_LS050T3SX01=y
Defconfig of Xperia ZL for reference here
International version of Xperia ZL:
https://bitbucket.org/Don2x/intl.-yu...nfig?at=master
And board files of the international version of Xperia Z.
https://bitbucket.org/Don2x/intl.-yu...ay.c?at=master
Code:
#ifdef CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY70
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_dlogo_02,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_dlogo_2a,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_dlogo,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_1a,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id_1a_02,
&jdc_mdy70_panel_id,
#endif /* CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY70 */
#ifdef CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY80
&jdc_mdy80_black_panel_id,
&jdc_mdy80_white_panel_id,
#endif /* CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_JDC_MDY80 */
#ifdef CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_SHARP_LS050T3SX01
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id_dlogo_01,
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id_dlogo,
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id_1a,
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id_1a_02,
&sharp_ls050t3sx01_panel_id,
#endif /* CONFIG_FB_MSM_MIPI_R63311_SHARP_LS050T3SX01 */
You can see the similar display drivers being used by the international version & docomo version here.
So my point here is demo model or not. Docomo variant or not they all use the same LCD technology! There's no difference!
Now how do I prove to all of you that they're not the same kernel sources and I didn't just made duplicates and remove some files?
Compare these yourself.
Docomo version:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/down...-10-1-d-0-317/
International version:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/down...-10-1-a-1-350/
All in all the very basic logic here is that you can't use a single display driver on different types of hardware which should make a point that if two different sources uses the same driver only leads to having the same hardware.
Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155145
T200 -> T68i -> T610 -> K700i -> P910i -> W800i -> P990i -> M600i -> P1-> Nokia E71 -> X1i -> X10 -> Arc S -> Sony Z1 -> Sony Z Ultra -> Sony Z3+ -> iPhone 6 -> iPhone 7 Plus -> iPhone X -> iPhone XS Max |
randomuser
Joined: Sep 13, 2011
Posts: > 500
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Z vs HTC One Night shot @ 4mp
Note that Z shot is taken at ISO800, One shot is at ISO 400.
Z
HTC ONE
Also look at these Z samples, downsampled to slightly above 4 megapixels. You can compare these with the HTC One camera samples available on the Internet.
P.S. The above pics have not been altered in any way. I only resized them to around 4MP @ 100% quality. No noise reduction or sharpness boost or whatever.
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marcink
Joined: Nov 11, 2005
Posts: 121
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Camera quality, not battery capacity, is the true casualty of slimmed down phones. Sensors are ridiculously small these days. N95 used to have a 1/2.3 5mpix sensor and it was not large enough. And now it's 1/3 era. 13 or 4MP, the result won't look good. Sony and HTC have failed and Samsung will probably to:(
Maybe someone will introduce a lens mount for mobiles. Place a camera near the edge and make it retractable and replacable with sth. like an imaging kit with bigger sensor, better lens and xenon.
[ This Message was edited by: marcink on 2013-02-20 10:32 ] |
xperia_sakth
Joined: Oct 24, 2012
Posts: 114
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so far 140,000 units sold within one week..
Link text...
http://sonyviet.vn/2013/02/14[....]-da-het-bay-trong-vong-1-tuan/
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buns
Joined: Jan 14, 2013
Posts: 92
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^this is only in japan, right? |
Indiandawg
Joined: Sep 18, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Mumbai
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Can anybody post a video of Google Now on Xperia Z?
T200 -> T68i -> T610 -> K700i -> P910i -> W800i -> P990i -> M600i -> P1-> Nokia E71 -> X1i -> X10 -> Arc S -> Sony Z1 -> Sony Z Ultra -> Sony Z3+ -> iPhone 6 -> iPhone 7 Plus -> iPhone X -> iPhone XS Max |
xperia_sakth
Joined: Oct 24, 2012
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wait for one more week.. next week UK.. 
On 2013-02-20 12:19:10, buns wrote:
^this is only in japan, right?
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xperia_sakth
Joined: Oct 24, 2012
Posts: 114
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http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/[....]ampaign=sony-xperia-z-unboxing
it is not demo version and it is retail one.. |
tai020381
Joined: Dec 07, 2004
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Those who wanted to see HTC m7's Ultra pixels:
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobi[....]0%E6%96%B0%20HTC%20One-review/
Frankly speaking, you set Xperia Z to low megapixels and take it will easily surpass this ultra-pixel... |
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Posted: 2013-02-19 19:57
