Posted by Stinger151
Ok this man is a great in the rap world one of the best if not the best he was a very talented man.
what i wanna know if hes dead or not he was shot 5 times in 1996 and died later on the day he was shot.
but before he said that he was wanting to get out of the buissness he cfould have done this if he faked his death.
what do u think?thers lots of facts which lead to him being alive but about the same ammount of facts leading to him being dead.
Posted by absinthebri
I can't say I'm very concerned one way or the other. Sorry.
Posted by Aled
i heard he's living in a secret location with elvis, jimi hendrix, kurt cobain and hitler
Posted by Ayush
Adolf hitler?
Posted by Stinger151
hes chattin rubbish he was tryin to be sarcastic.
Posted by jenbones
No chance
Posted by Stinger151
jenbones no chance wat?
Posted by jenbones
He faked it
Posted by Stinger151
heres some reasons for him still being alive.
1) 2Pac began calling himself Makaveli. Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies. 2Pac was a fan of Machiavelli and had read his books. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice?
2)2Pac was cremated the day after he died. Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder? There was no autopsy. Plus, no one can ask to dig up his grave like they wanted to do with Elvis and like they did with Abraham Lincoln. Also he always talked about being burried when he dies why cremate him?
3)2Pac has completed several movies and new albums and keeps on appearing on new artist's albums. (Many of the unheard songs 2Pac has completed are unreleased and not on any albums) Why would he do so much at one time??? With so many people upset about 2Pac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...
4)In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.
6)There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album.... "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." 2pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too.. The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?". This album was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! What's with this????
7)2Pac always wore a bulletproof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time.. why not?
Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting
Posted by Cycovision
No offence mate but your last post made me remember this VIZ cartoon:
http://www.maxim-magazine.co.[....]_strips_index.php?start_rec=8#
(the 'Grassy Knollington' comic strip)
As for tupac, God knows!
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'He who laughs last, laughs longest. Or didn't get the joke...'
[ This Message was edited by: Cycovision on 2005-07-17 18:41 ]
Posted by Lynx69
@adham, oyu can work a theory from your reasons aswell...for all you know he did all them to make us think what your thinkin right now,that hes probably still alive, for when he does really die.
Too many theories, i think its all bullsh*t, hes dead.
Posted by jenbones
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Dont challenge me with hip-hop, i know my shit. 2pac didn't complete the albums, they were made before death, remixes, he made loads of tracks, but some he ditched, they are now being brought out, no chase becausehe was shot, and the police weren't quick enough.
Makeveli was 2pacs alius he used for himself, nothing to do with anything else. 2pac had a crewl life, in prison for rape, which he didn't commit and all that shit, he could have hired somebody to shoots him, that is one possibility. 2pac was burried the day later, i know people that have been cremated the day after!! The 7 day theory, was actually suggested by dre, pac had no recognition of this untill he was given the lyrics, im not saying he didn't know but still. 25th, that's just a coinsidence, it was scheduelled for then anyway. 2pac wouldn't fake his death, his own mom swears that he's dead, she identified his body. Pac was a man of words, did you know that on some of 2pac tracks he doesn't actually sing, people alike him do. 2pac IS dead, everyone just pretends he's not just to try and conn them selfs into thinking that they're hero is still alive, they need to face reality!!
Posted by dude_se
calm down peeps. all that writing!!!!!!!!
either way we should just enjoy the music
dude_se
Posted by jenbones
LOL,
as pac once said
"It's not about the music, it's the meaning in the music"
Posted by Stinger151
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actually ur wrong, 2pacs music has been remixed alot and there are tons of tracks that he odne before he was supposedly killed so on that ur right but most ur wrong on.
2Pac began calling himself Makaveli because Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies. 2Pac was a fan of Machiavelli and had read his books in prison.so thats why he called himself makaveli.
he had a bad life because he mixed with the wrong people duirng his youth. He was a very tallented boy. But when he moved to marin city thats where he started being a g on the streets and mixing with the wrong people.Alos both his parents were members of the black panthers.Las vegas is in the middle of a desert they easily coul;d have got helicopters up and searched for the cars, also las vegas police department didnt really do a good job on finding the convicts did they any other state would have but they didnt maybe because las vegas is a pay off city so most likely they were corrupt.
also the 7 day theory had this track on Life Of An Outlaw in which he says this ."All for the street fame on how to be managed, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"
k, u may think that hes dead like the many other people the only piece of hard evidence is this pic of jim dead and cut open but hes not facing the camera proply so it could be fake.
whether hes dead or not his presence and spirit is felt. in the world of music he is no less than a legend.
Tupac R.I.P
[ This Message was edited by: Ahdam on 2005-07-17 21:57 ]
Posted by Gigs
Who killed laura palmer?
Doesn't really matter if he's dead or not.. if he's nto good on him for the publicity stunt, if he is, good on him for being worm bait.
Either way he stilll remains a free download
Posted by gangstagreek
im a real 2pac fan.there r so many theorys about y he is alive & y he is not but no mater wat no 1 knoes except 1 person & that 1 person is suge knight(owner of death row). i have watched all his documentries & 1 of them showd his funeral;wether it was real or just a diversion i dnt no but it showed them spillin his ashes in2 the sea,throwin his jewellery in there aswell.
if you want 2 no more read about him on his websites, watch his documentries! or ask suge.
Posted by gangstagreek
visit www.streetgangs.com it has alot of info on his murder case.
Posted by kk.226
I have tried to like Tupac, but i can't. I mean i have about 100 of his songs on my ipod ... I mean i try and think about the words he says, but they get drowned out by what seams to be the same beat over each track. I know im probably gona get some stick for this but i just can't see what the hype is all about with him.
If you can point out a few of his finer tracks with some kind of meaning, then i'll happily listen to them and make sense of them.
I'm more into my R&B, but i listen to Hip Hop (The whole cars/women/guns livestyle they talk about CAN get a MORE than a little boring) occasionally.
I listen to rap artists but only those with meaning, and also have some kind of decent background beat, a great underground artist is IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE who my friend introduced me to, his songs have meaning, talking about politics and the current state of the world. And obviously, Nas is an artist i favour too.
So yeah, if there are any Tupac songs in particular i should listen to, please let me know.
Posted by gangstagreek
wat r u talkin bout nearly all of 2pac's tunes have meaning 2! lisen 2 changes,dear mama,stop the gunfight(feat b.i.g),i aint mad at cha. i can go on & on & on.
this is a known fact that 2pac is the greatest rapper of all time & no 1 will come even close to him,the only person that did come close was b.i.g. even though 2pac has ''passed away'' he is still bringin in so much money 2 death row records.
Posted by seanflynn
I have no doubt the best tupac track ever made - it sends shivers down your spine!
And no its not on any album, its a rare classic!
Posted by Jim
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Anyway if he pretends to be dead then he have his reasons and let it go, if he is really dead, well you can't do much about that.
Either way, let it go, it won't bring him back
Posted by gangstagreek
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wats is it?
Posted by Kryptik
By far the best 2pac recording i've ever heard was when he was a guest at a concert held to showcase up-and-coming young rappers, and he did an impromptu rendition of "Gangsta Party" with them. Totally unplugged and unrehearsed...
Posted by Stinger151
2pac lived for the game and died for it.
the greatest rapper of all time maybe some may say.
most of his tracks had a meaning i mean he wrote most himself using his talent.
Without him rap/hip hop wouldnt be wat it is 2day.
Posted by gangstagreek
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well said!!!
Posted by darksyde
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wouldn't go as far as that... i mean he is a genius but it was guys like nwa and public enemy that made rap/hiphop what it is today! and funnily enough it was the beastie boys who made rap more mainstream!
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The Track is called Lifes So Hard (Original Version) and I will upload Rite away! enjoy and turn up guys listen to it peace man!
Pac R.I.P
Posted by jenbones
Yeah, not just for the music, pac was a very talented man!!
Posted by seanflynn
Life's So Hard - Tupac
Posted by 50Cent
i agree.. that is a v.gud tune
Posted by anay
Can anyone upload any more good tunes?
Posted by Kryptik
Does anybody know where i could find 2LiveCrew mp3 or wav?
Posted by Gigs
I see scooby, shaggy and the gang haven't stopped the ghoul from releasing a new number 1 feat elton john.
Posted by Stinger151
you cant put a man like that down and out hes just too strong.
Posted by Kryptik
I love that song! I've got the mp3 of Ghetto Gospel on my phone, it sounds awesome.
Posted by DJcreamz
LOL
READ THIS
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/viewpoint/tupac.html
Posted by Aled
OK, heres the thing-
Your famous, got loads of money, theres people who want you dead, youve had enough and decide to fake youre own death to get away from it all in safety. You dont wanna be recognised so you probably want to get plastic surgery and your tattoos removed or covered etc. make a convincing death so people wont come looking for you and your away (although in reality it would be a million times more complicated than that to get away with it).
Alternatively you could waste ridiculous amounts of time planning loads of stupid coincidences so that even after you fake your death succesfully people can still work out that your still alive, then those guys you where trying to get away from can find you and do the job properly.
Or option no.3 you could get shot dead, and have loads of obsessive fans with too much spare time coming up with silly theories about how if you add different numbers together it proves you didnt die (im pretty sure you can find coincidences like that everywhere you look), Like did you know 2pac had 5 toes on each foot? and if you add 5 and 2 you get 7 etc. etc.
You really believe he's making all these records in secret and no-one's thought to make a quick buck by blabbing about where he is?
Posted by jenbones
Pac knew he was going to get shot, it was just a matter of time, so did Big aswell, so they both assosiated what was on their minds and put it into lyrics in their songs...2pac was real clever by doing this, because some of the people new to the 'hip-hop' culture, still actually think that Pac is alive!!
Posted by Stinger151
hey, for years i thought pac as dead but then after listening to his tracks over and over again i realized that he always spoke of how it was gonna be after life. so i was just wondering if there was a chance hed still be alive which there is but most likely not.
you gotta admit the way he died and them not being able to find the murderers is a bit weird aint it i mean for a star that big at the time, more should have been done.