Posted by dave2qj
I don't think this was ever confirmed but the manager of the SE UK eShop replied to an email there now:
Hi Mr Hamilton,
W have a very limited number of P800 in stock tomorrow of which you are to be allocated one, the order will go on a next day but it will depend on when they arrive from the freight forwarders as to weather we can despatch tomorrow. If we are unable to then it will go Wednesday on a next day delivery to Northern Ireland.
The Uk P800 is slightly different stock, you are correct in saying that the camera id different, it will have a Zoom function and will have a night vision function as well, the memory is the same as the specified spec.
Regards
Adam Marsh
Sony Ericsson Eshop Manager UK & Ireland
There you go, glad I waited! And confirmed for tomorrow. Great.
Posted by Superluminova
well i hope this is true, as those function would be quite cool and orange might have alot of un happy customers if they got p800's that are different from the uk spec p800
we shall just have to wait and see.
Posted by dazbradbury
wow, that's kool, glad i haven't got one yet, the orange customers will be pissed though, as will people from other countries, is this really true?!
Posted by Superluminova
i think its just a new software version, but i will just be in the retail version of the uk p800 from the start isn't of you having to upgrade
Posted by baz
They don't mention anything about this on their web site.
M8 of mine works for SE, will ask him to find out. Would hate to get a P800 when they are released on O2 only 2 find out a week later they are releasing a better version.
i wonder if they will release a 3G version of this phone.
BAZ
Posted by Superluminova
don't think that they will release it on o2 as the old version, i think orange has got the old one if this is true?
and dream on about a 3g p800
Posted by gadgetboytom
it wont be a hardware change thats for sure
i doubt this is real it may be a mistake
Posted by Eleventy7
sounds like a fake to me tbh, how come weve not heard nethin about it b4?
Posted by Andy_P
damn..
Ive got an Orange one, and I'm very happy with it, but I also have one of the first eshop ones on order, which sounds like it will probably arrive this week.
I don't want two, but I could cancel the eshop or the orange one... damn....
Posted by gadgetboytom
i mailed my mate at
he should get back to me soon
Posted by tr7v8
i dunno but having ordered the normal orange version instead of this claimed 'enhanced version' I spect I could take it back under the sale of goods act claiming it was unsatisfactory goods, althought it is my first contract not an upgrade so i have 14 days anyway
Posted by Coramoor
HA!
Nightvision my ass..
I seriously doubt a software update would add nightvision.
The lens would have to pick up infra red frequencies then wouldn't it?
The zoom should be possible though.
I've seen some rather expensive sony digital cameras with nightvision...
Posted by masseur
Ha indeed! Another world (or UK at least) exclusive in an email to a customer!
Reminds me of the post over at My Symbian which turned into a breadmachine update or something!
Posted by gadgetboytom
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson.
With reference to your enquiry concerning the P800, the UK specifications
regarding the camera are the same as the European P800s. Neither UK or
European models have zoom or night mode.
Please contact us again if we can be of further assistance and feel free to
visit our website at www.sonyericsson.com for more information and support
on our products.
Kind regards,
Luke Halpin
Sony Ericsson Customer Care Centre (UK)
Tel: +44 (0)8705 237 237
Fax: +44 (0)845 300 2439
E-mail: questions.gb@support.sonyericsson.com
LIAR!!!
Posted by DARREN S
During one of my conversations with SE they told me the reason for the delay was that they were testing out video capture which would be a standard feature in the UK version
Posted by Orka
@gadgetboytom
Thanx pal..... End of story and roumors at last.....
Posted by Superluminova
why do people feel the need to start rumors?
Posted by masseur
gadgetboytom... assuming your post is real, which is more believable than the topic of this thread, you might wanna post that on the My Symbian thread authored by the originator of this thread... its at http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3249
Posted by dave2qj
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Look, screw you. I am not just starting a rumour. I'm not telling you this is fact, but what is fact is that Adam Marsh emailed me this information. Phone and ask to speak to him yourself for clarification, but don't start slandering me without any evidence.
And Tom, I'd rather take the word of the manager than that of a sales adviser. If anyone wants the managers email PM me. I'll be at work until 10 tonight after which I can reply.
We should have the phone from SE on Thursday anyway so we don't have long to wait. The
Posted by mrNoodles
Hehehe let me smile
17posts and starts mumbling about nightvision and zoom - thats a good one!!
Posted by gadgetboytom
Eshop= not
3 party firm
= they make the phone
Whos right?
Posted by Zoidy
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Dave,
S'ok mate, I'm backing you up, Justin at the Eshop also saod to me about a possible camera update for the reason why the phone was delayed a little longer than Oranges. Orange wanted to corner the market by getting it out early.
I cant say if this is a fact or fiction but we shall see on wednesday (hopefully) when my phone comes
.
Pete.
Posted by Andy_P
I just rang and cancelled mine - Emma said they were definately due in tomorrow....
I can't wait for those who have orderred theres to tell me the firmware.... ! Lets hope it's like 2A or something with a zoom...
Posted by masseur
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I just got back from getting my import P800 upgraded from an SE service centre in Addlestone and I was the first they had done so they downloaded the firmware from the SE servers and I got...
Phone R1D
Bluetooth R2C
Organiser R1G05
CDA (whatever that is...) R2A04
Posted by Superluminova
chill out mate, i want to believe it but with the evidence i've seen so far i cant
Posted by oferlaor
Video recording is something that can be added through software.
Night mode requires an I/R camera, and an I/R emitter.
I doubt very much that we'll see such a thing on a phone any time soon.
Posted by gadgetboytom
Ok eshop are 3rd party!!!!!
they dont know technical information like customer care @
do
Posted by paro
Hello all! I just read on the swedish new site mobil.se about a software upgrade in april that is supposed to enhance the picture quality on P800! Nothing about zoom though....
Posted by dazbradbury
hmm, night vision does seem a bit extreme, i'm thinking it means something like the 7650, doesn't that have a nightshot thing in it so it takes better quality pictures at night, it's not actually like IR nightvision, just for better pictures at night? Well, i cant wait till we all can fnd out before i go out and get mine,
Daz.
Posted by dannykipling
none of this would change the quality of the pictures that much.
just pre ordered p800 from CPW for £5. Even though its in the catalogue they said 2 to 3 weeks for sim free.
Posted by gadgetboytom
if this was true it would be availble to ALL p800 users both old and new
Posted by dazbradbury
thats a point, IF it is true, and i say IF, then it should be available to people who have allready bought the phone.
Posted by carlhunt
Well, zoom and night vision would be welcome additions.
As a Sony camera user I know that they have
zoom and nightvision ( just a filter algorythm
to bring out more detail at night ) software functionality
which could be added to the phone.
I would however hope that the SE boys had been listening
to this and other forums and were looking to include
an integrated task manager/file manager, exit commands
for the basic apps, proper contacts management etc.
Roll on Wednesday / Thursday we everybody else
gets their phone and can update us on firmware etc.
to see if we need to make use of the Orange 14 day
money back guaruntee - just as well I havn't tried
to remove the Orange logos yet.
Posted by jplacson
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Well, I know for sure video will be available soon... maybe after CeBit.. but I highly doubt
can make that deadline. I'm guessing April or May.
With regards to nightvision... most CCDs can see the IR band... that's the beauty of CCDs... all you need is a proper SW controller... don't believe me? Those of you who have netcams... set them to maximum gain and the slowest shutter speed... then point a TV remote at them...you should see a green light coming out of your TV remote
The 7650 exploits this with it's 'Night Mode' ... the P800 has this ability as well... they just need to add the proper controls in the Communicam app.
Posted by dazbradbury
hey anyone tried that?!?! sounds kool!
Posted by jellyellie
Hi Mr Hamilton,
W have a very limited number of P800 in stock tomorrow of which you are to be allocated one, the order will go on a next day but it will depend on when they arrive from the freight forwarders as to weather we can despatch tomorrow. If we are unable to then it will go Wednesday on a next day delivery to Northern Ireland.
The Uk P800 is slightly different stock, you are correct in saying that the camera id different, it will have a Zoom function and will have a night vision function as well, the memory is the same as the specified spec.
Regards
Adam Marsh
Sony Ericsson Eshop Manager UK & Ireland
1. I'm sure he wouldn't start with 'Hi'
2. Doesn't say 'Thanks for contacting...'
3. 'Weather' spelt wrong
4. No contact details at the bottom
@dave2qj nice try
Posted by parvski
Just out of curiosity what happens when you use night vision in the day?
Posted by carlhunt
I just got back from getting my import P800 upgraded from an SE service centre in Addlestone and I was the first they had done so they downloaded the firmware from the SE servers and I got...
Out of curiosity, is it just a case of wondering in to your
local service centre and saying please update me?
Does it cost much/anything ?
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Posted by masseur
It was going to cost me to update in Frankfurt (where I work Monday to Friday) unless I could show a problem that required the upgrade, but this SE centre happily updated me no questions and no payment. Very friendly in fact!
Posted by parvski
damn thats messed up
Posted by carlhunt
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I have just taken a photo of a P800 using a sony camera in Nightshot mode. If I were brighter I would post the picture.
What you end up with is a green-scale picture, green on black
but with lots of contrast i.e. lots of shades of green
so a clear picture which just appears to have been washed
in one colour.
Posted by parvski
cool..... sounds like a scene from the Matrix
Posted by PiotrMmX
Yeah!LG UC35 usb pc camera has also a night pictures ability! It uses green filter but the pictures are much better with that function on at night. I use it for my cars security. I think that P800 can have this ability too-IMO its software dependant. Regards! Peter
Posted by dave2qj
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Look you twat, on My-Symbian.com it has all been established that even if the data isn't correct, which in all likelyhood it isn't it isn't my fault.
It IS the nice manager of EShop, I provided full contents of both mine and Marsh's email correspondance with all the details below I decided to leave out. He's only human and email is a fairly informal way of communication, you must be fairly new to the internet if you haven't caught on to this fact yet.
And why would he not say "Hi"? We are 2 adults and conversing by email.. when you go into a shop does the manager get down on one knee and speak to you? WTF are you on about??!
And as for number 2. of your "managerial contact rules" it was my third email to him in a week.
See http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3249&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 for the stuff On My-Symbion I refered to.
I hope you aren't representative of the users on Esato you know-nothing smartarse.
d.
Posted by mrNoodles
Wow
You sure make your self welcome by calling ppl names.
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Posted by dave2qj
And you guys sure know how to make someone feel welcome by calling new members liars when they post something they feel may be of some interest to others . Don't worry, I won't stick around in your elite little forum for long.
Posted by Andy_P
Jesus this is getting silly...
I agree with Dave.. for some random person to dispute the email because he didn't put "hi" at the bottom really turns this into a sh*te thread.
Weeks before this was mentioned, I knew that to be the name of the manager at the eshop (through my dealings with them) and I think the email looks geniune, even if maybe misguided.
As the things are arriving today, can't we just ignore this childish squabble and just see?
Im actually stunned at how pathetic that post was... Proves how many kids are getting their hands on P800s
Posted by ninnos01
Maybe this will help...
http://www.mobil.se/nyheter/visa.asp?id=6355&sid=1
It's in Swedish, according to a member of the french forum "P800.fr.st",
(vad78) which translate it :
A new firmware will be available during april and it will change the following : Improving the software for better pictures, improving bluetooth connection and a new version of UIQ.
And a cherry on the cake : Possibility to make ourselves the upgrade...
Hope this will calm down everybody
Posted by ninnos01
An other translation : http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=b28d9cab966ba5945d79a157e91be0eb&threadid=105082
Posted by nigelot1
stick around dave2qj
I got this newsletter from my-symbian today and it mentions your e-mail
Rumours have also been spreading regarding a possible camera upgrade for the Sony Ericsson P800, which are said to include a Digital Zoom and a 'Night Mode' much like the feature on the Nokia 7650. An email said to be from the Manager of the Sony Eshop UK states that they should be getting the new and improved units in any day now, but another email from a Customer Service person tell differently. Smells a bit like vapourware to me, although it would be a brilliant add on, but there is always that question in the back of my mind.Another world exclusive in an everyday email to a customer, I doubt it.
A slightly nicer response to your post
People (who responded in an unpleasant way to your post) have probably already bought and paid a lot for the P800 and cant stand the idea of the phone being 'better' now, they are just kids (probably still at school)
Dont let them wind you up
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