Posted by 9_Destiny
Some of us probably nothiced that we've got SE fanboy reactivation. First 40 top photos are taken with SE phones. We've got "1 marks campain" again. Any ideas how to fight with haters?
Posted by TTT
Stop thinking about ranking and remember that at least 90% still are stunning photos worth to be where they are.
Posted by Bonovox
Laffen now has a system to catch 1 voters I know we all have had more 1 votes again recently but I have stopped caring about it now gonna just forget it.
Posted by Marly
On 2012-01-18 20:32:39, 9_Destiny wrote:
Some of us probably nothiced that we've got SE fanboy reactivation. First 40 top photos are taken with SE phones. We've got "1 marks campain" again.
Didn't notice that, don't care about the top 100 anyways
Posted by ernesthelmer
Hi...
I have been a Sony Ericsson guy for a long time and have just strayed. I know, I can't believe it myself.... In the pre-android days my fave was the K850 with it's wonderful camera and semi-touch screen.
Posted by chunkybeats
@9_Destiny
There may be people doing that but really you got to remember Esato was for SE users originally years ago so of course there is a lot of SE users on here with photos posting up. We all dont have different brands and have the money to afford multiple phones like others but like i mentioned to you before in one of your comments of one photo, that its down to capturing that special moment and of course we are all fans of photography irrespective of the device.
So really please stop making a big deal out of this, as you can see there are heaps of Nokia N8 photos and they are beautifully taken. If you want get your phone out and start capturing some lovely photos then we can see what your photos are like!
Am i being fair about this? I think so.... what does everyone else think?
Posted by Guarulhos
9_Destiny...
Unfortunately, The ESATO Is And Always Will Be a Territory of Sony Fans !
They Disappear For a Few Days, But Back In Full Force Later !
There's Even a Picture That I Post Here, Which Does Not Receive At Least 5 votes a Note !
I Believe That No Better Solution Would Be To Let The Moderators Hypocrisy Aside And Enact a Time That The Mural Photos Will Only Be Allowed For Posting Pictures From a Sony Devices !
Here At Least We Would Know That This is An Area Sony !
At Least It Would Be More Logical and Fair !
As For These Idiots Who Continually My Results Turn Negative And Photos, Nokia NSeries N8... Samsung M8910 Pixon 12... Apple IPhone 4S, Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II, Motorola XT910 Razr and Samsung N7000 Galaxy Note Are No Better Than Any Other Sony Ericsson !
P.S: Forget Those Idiots ! And Keep Posting Your Pictures And Forget Their Classification, For Sure Regardless Of Originality And Quality For Them... They Are Always Bad, Only Because They Are Not Captured by a Sony Mobile Phone !!!
Posted by blackvodka
I don't think there's something strange about this, people estimate pics to their subjective preference, so a pic can look good for you but still someone else can prefer another one (maybe worse to your eyes) to it, no matter what brand phone took it. Some time ago in the top 100 there were mostly pics taken on other brands than SE, though some of them to my taste didn't deserve that, but once again, it was my personal preference.
I'm saying that at a SE owner, so I did get the 1 notes for each of my taken pic, too... How would you explain that, then?
So just cheer up and enjoy life, it's not always fair, but it's interesting
Posted by djin
@9_Destiny, Guarulhos,
IF you think this forum and the mods are biased, then i suggest you to take pics and upload it somewhere else, maybe like facebook and tag everyone so they somehow like your pics and maybe make you happy? Sorry for being a bit rude, but I think this is a just forum,there are definitely
fans, but also haters, and everyone else here, luckily most of us are mature and have mostly unbiased well constructed posts.
Posted by semo
Hiding all data about the pictures should solve this problem.
If the information appears only after voting then there wouldn't be any prejudice.
People will vote solely by the quality of the photo.
Posted by chunkybeats
ok no need for Liuthe 1 star, could laffen deal with these trolls? it's getting a bit childish now
Posted by Bonovox
There has already been a topic on this & Laffen dealt with it. Think this should be locked & if you have a problem maybe PM Laffen
Posted by chunkybeats
Thanks Bono I will do. By the way are you a U2 fan with your name? hehe
Posted by Bonovox
Yes. Seen them live in Cardiff 1993 & signed the wall outside his house in Killiney Ireland. Fans sign their names on his wall
He lives near where my mom was from. Where in NZ you from?? My sister in law is from Windy Wellington [ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-01-30 20:05 ]
Posted by laffen
Yes, please send me a PM if you find anything suspicious about any of the votes. I try to look after the photo section, but it's not always that easy. For example someone signing up just to throw in 4-5 votes on photos by a particular member. Is that cheating?
Posted by Bonovox
No it's not
Posted by mlife
On 2012-01-30 21:00:15, Bonovox wrote:
No it's not
Posted by 9_Destiny
Now my turn:
OK, I admit that I shouldn’t wrote sentence using phrase “SE fanboy reactivation” cos I see it could be taken personally by other members of forum so I’ll rephrase it, into word “haters”.
I’ve wrote about it cos it‘s pretty frustrating of having from 3-6 one marks during 15 min only when my pic closing top seeds. I’m sure it’s from ONE principal who has got multiple profiles. That person is giving one marks to each not SE pic again and I want to foil his job. I want to fight with haters who leading 1 votes campaign and trying to bring down everybody who uploads photos from mobile phone regadless if shown pics are from SE, HTC, Nokia, Samsung or other brand.
On 2012-01-30 04:54:45, chunkybeats wrote:
@9_Destiny
So really please stop making a big deal out of this
Sorry but I won’t stop and I’m not making big deal. I opened this topic because I wanted to read about possibilities how to stop “1 votes” in every photo and I have the right to discuss it.
On 2012-01-30 04:54:45, chunkybeats wrote:
@9_Destiny
N8 photos and they are beautifully taken.
I agree but suddenly all of them fell down during 1 day. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
On 2012-01-30 04:54:45, chunkybeats wrote:
@9_Destiny
Am i being fair about this? I think so.... what does everyone else think?
I don’t think so
As for Guarulhos post I think it’s 2 strict. I don’t fell like on Territory of Sony Fans. I just want to fight with haters by means of moderators. If mods are able to delate all 1 votes once a week or once a month, then I would be satisfied. I’m sure that not only me would be happy about that. I saw a lot of people writing in comments of their beautiful pics that they would never post a pic again because of one marks. That’s the real problem and I think it’s worth to solve it.
On 2012-01-30 08:14:15, blackvodka wrote:
I don't think there's something strange about this, people estimate pics to their subjective preference, so a pic can look good for you but still someone else can prefer another one (maybe worse to your eyes) to it, no matter what brand phone took it.
I agree. Furtheremore from October to January it was finally normal situation with multiple phone brands on top seeds and suddenly all top 40 became SE again. I remember when I was shoting with my SE Elm. Couple of my macro shots earn from 25 to 30 highest marks during 8 hours! Coincidence? I don’t think so.
I'm saying that at a SE owner, so I did get the 1 notes for each of my taken pic, too... How would you explain that, then?
That’s why I want to fight with all one marks. Not only in not SE photos. All to foil haters job.
So just cheer up and enjoy life, it's not always fair, but it's interesting
I’m very satisfied of my life. All I want is to face up with haters who are not fair.
On 2012-01-30 09:25:18, djin wrote:
@9_Destiny, Guarulhos,
IF you think this forum and the mods are biased, then i suggest you to take pics and upload it somewhere else, maybe like facebook and tag everyone so they somehow like your pics and maybe make you happy? Sorry for being a bit rude
I haven’t wrote that mods are biased so stop insult me of such opinion and don’t suggest me where I can upload my pics. You didn’t contribute nothing it the topic apart from niggling me. I agree with you: That’s rude.
To sum up everything I just want to prevent somehow of votes manipulation at top 100. When I saw couple of post above I’ve nothiced that I’m being attacked instead of being understood. Pity…
On 2012-01-30 20:59:28, laffen wrote:
Yes, please send me a PM if you find anything suspicious about any of the votes. I try to look after the photo section, but it's not always that easy.
I can imagine that’s not easy but I wanted to mention in that topic of reactivation 1 mark campain. Since November to January we had normal, multibrand top 100.
On 2012-01-30 20:59:28, laffen wrote:
For example someone signing up just to throw in 4-5 votes on photos by a particular member. Is that cheating?
No but I bet that hardly any will create a profile just for voting for couple of pics. It’s mostly job of person who want to manipulate top 100.
[ This Message was edited by: 9_Destiny on 2012-01-30 21:11 ]
Posted by Bonovox
I think it's best if people just post their photos but the top 100 goes. Getting tired of this now am past caring who votes for what
Posted by mlife
....or maybe we could help lafen out.... make voting a "premium" service and start charging $10 or $20 usd per year to register your user name as a premium member and have the right to vote.... or simply allow lafen to "choose" user names that are allowed to vote this would eliminate those creating multiple ID's for the purpose of voting and the aforementioned idea would even provide lafen a bit of monetary gain for all his troubles over the years.... I for one would gladly pay.
Posted by djin
@9_Destiny,
That post was a reply to not just you but also Guarulhos, I think we both know what your wrote, so the part what you didnt write was not meant for you. That's all.
I am not sure if you considered the fact that most of the photos taken are from sony ericsson, which is over 29 thousand, and the probability of one of them being viewed and voted is much higher, if you go to top rated, tell me if there is any 2011 sony ericsson phone in the top 30?In comparison your picture in on #42 and 52 pictures of top 100 belong to non sony ericsson phones.
Does this mean we are all cheating and down voting new sony ericsson because we all liked old sony ericsson?
Now of course there will be trolls here and anywhere, even gsmarena, who would try up voting their images,phones and stuff like that..
Hence my suggestion, if your not really comfortable with voting system, facebook shows only likes. There cannot be a perfect troll free voting system in internet.
Posted by chunkybeats
I thought so mate! I live in Wellington too! Live in lower Hutt if you ask your sis in law! yeah I saw u2 on Belfast on the pop mart tour on 97! Awesome band!
Thanks laffen I will do! It's really not fair for everyone to show their talents!
Posted by Bonovox
They were in Wellington last year when they felt about 4 earth tremors back in Feb 2011. It was not long before the Japan quake. Anyway back on topic
Posted by 9_Destiny
On 2012-01-31 03:17:48, djin wrote:
@9_Destiny,
I am not sure if you considered the fact that most of the photos taken are from sony ericsson, which is over 29 thousand, and the probability of one of them being viewed and voted is much higher
Of course I've considered that fact but is has nothing common with changing top 40 during 1 day. Now he got 50 Sony Ericsson at the top. I'm sure soon there will be 60,70,80 and so on and it's consecutive work of 1 person. That's my opinion.
I'm watching top 100 since April and to be honest I got used to that what was going on there with votes. I'm sure that most active members downloading pics from not SE phones also remember '1 marks crusade' Especially those who had many positive comments and votes at start and during couple of hours all came back behind top 100.
I can put dozens of links to photos where users were complaining about multiple 1 marks during couple of hours on their pics. I'll start from myself:
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]hotos.php?pid=42736&uid=211376
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]hotos.php?pid=38778&uid=211376
I could put many other causes from different users who has got similar situation.
On 2012-01-31 03:17:48, djin wrote:
@9_Destiny,
if you go to top rated, tell me if there is any 2011 sony ericsson phone in the top 30?In comparison your picture in on #42 and 52 pictures of top 100 belong to non sony ericsson phones.
Does this mean we are all cheating and down voting new sony ericsson because we all liked old sony ericsson?
I think that you haven't read my previous post so I'll write it once again. I'm not accusing 'you all' cos It's always matter of 3-6 votes in each good not SE shot and I'm sure it's caused by single person.
Now of course there will be trolls here and anywhere, even gsmarena, who would try up voting their images,phones and stuff like that
I agree with you. All I want is to fight with such trolling somehow.
On 2012-01-31 03:17:48, djin wrote:
if your not really comfortable with voting system
I will ask mods 4 same what they did in October/Nowember. Their delated lots of votes from uncertain profiles and brought normality to top 100. When they did it I've lost several dozens on votes incuding more than twenty 'ten marks' from only single SE shot made from me.
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]hotos.php?pid=42736&uid=211376
I'm not even mention about how many 'one marks' I got rid of from my other not SE shots. Same situation were with cu015170, sassho's, cecobizona's and others pics after loosing 1 votes ballast.
To sum up everything I just want to fight with haters dealing one marks, no matter if they vote against SE or not SE pics.
[ This Message was edited by: 9_Destiny on 2012-01-31 18:37 ]
[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2012-12-07 14:43 ]
Posted by samuele
fans boy sony ericsson new action...
Posted by 9_Destiny
Good news
Laffen dealt with several voters and removed all their votes.
We got multiple brand top 100. Especially on the top 20 seeds.
Thx again Laffen
Posted by samuele
si ma laffen non può stare a perdere tempo per colpa di questi idioti fan boys
thanks laffen
Posted by 9_Destiny
Sony Ericsson multi account fan boy strikes back...
The end of the world is near...
Posted by alenn
Well,we all know that because Australia's Prime Minister said that the end is near.
Posted by samuele
fans boy sony ericsson new action...