Posted by chombos1
this thing really annoys me...
in the white papers:
they say W760 can record in 30fps but only 15fps in reality
they say W890 can record in 30fps but only 15fps in reality
they say G900 can record in 30fps but only 15fps in reality
they say G700 can record in 30fps but only 15fps in reality
they said K850 can record in 30fps but only virtual 30fps or 15fps in reality (but not on all K850s)
i just want a phone that can live up to it's whitepaper.... is QVGA@30fps a very hard job to do??
[ This Message was edited by: chombos1 on 2008-04-23 11:11 ]
Posted by Duran
My k850 vids are definitely 30fps.. what do you mean virtually?
They are a LOT smoother than my k750 videos @ 15fps
[ This Message was edited by: Duran on 2008-04-23 11:03 ]
Posted by chombos1
virtual 30fps means 30 frames in a second but each two frames are exactly the same. ==> results in a practical 15 different frames in a second.
but yes... some K850s with the new firmware does not have this problem anymore.
but W890 for example that is released and not a prototype anymore...
it has only 15 frames in a second. showing that this is not a recording bug.... it is just 15fps.
[ This Message was edited by: chombos1 on 2008-04-23 11:13 ]
Posted by Duran
I had 30fps on the initial k850 firmware (029)
Posted by brazzuka's
The CMOS cameras with which the works until today sony work until 27 fps to 30 fps (VGA 640H x 480V) supported limit
The question is not be difficult or not come to that most values rather but have a good quality and synchronization.
[ This Message was edited by: brazuka on 2008-04-23 18:16 ]
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2008-04-23 11:55:02, chombos1 wrote:
this thing really annoys me...
in the white papers:
they say W760 can record in 30fps but only 15fps in reality
they say W890 can record in 30fps but only 15fps in reality
they say G900 can record in 30fps but only 15fps in reality
they say G700 can record in 30fps but only 15fps in reality
they said K850 can record in 30fps but only virtual 30fps or 15fps in reality (but not on all K850s)
i just want a phone that can live up to it's whitepaper.... is QVGA@30fps a very hard job to do??
[ This Message was edited by: chombos1 on 2008-04-23 11:11 ]
Completely wrong.
I've done quite a bit of extensive research and the K850i does indeed record "UP TO 30fps". I say this because it depends on the brightness, movement of the subject your recording, and how much information is there. I havent' fully figured out how these variables affect the fps, or how to manipulate it to get full fps but its there.
Anywhere were I can post a few video files to show you all what I mean?
Posted by bleurdeur
The W900i does it at 30fps too
Posted by deepu
C702 also capture video at 30fps in qvga in mp4 format wich is really good compared to crappy 3gp one found in other SE phones.
Posted by dentoters07
i wish SE "upgrades" their video format from QVGA to VGA.. coz QVGA@30FPS is still crap because the video is too small to watch..
Posted by mib1800
I've done quite a bit of extensive research and the K850i does indeed record "UP TO 30fps"
This is SE marketing BS. "up to 30fps" is very far from 30fps.
K850i afaik, framerate drops to 15fps when there are lot of scene movement. You only get 30fps if the scene is relatively static.
[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2008-04-24 09:32 ]
Posted by @ftyk
@bleurdeur,
the w900i is a breed apart, you can't really compare it to the camera phones se makes today.
if you ask me, it was a once in a lifetime phone which was way ahead of it's time.
super display, excellent screen resolution, great build quality & almost 1/2 a gb of internal memory.
it was the 2nd & the last se walkman phone that came in the transparent plastic casing box.
i don't think se can replicate the w900i or even the s700i for that matter.
Posted by xan K
I wonder what are SE's thoughts about always staying below par in the video recording area. it could be to save costs, hardware limitations... I just don't know why they can't try harder.
Posted by razec
So far only two SE hansets have powerful hardware-based GPU to render true 30Fps QVGA and VGA quality: X1 and W900. SE's new admin should pay attention in addressing all the "mess" that the past disappointing handsets have done. although somehow i'm pretty sure that there will be true 30Fps(VGA) video quality on paris and shiho. we'll see if SE will make it this time, SE is still under mediocrity at most of it's major departments(imaging, business and music). i hope they could regain the and the used-to-be-great respect among it's users.
Posted by bleurdeur
@@ftyk:
True, it seems that the only 2 swivel type SE handsets are incomparable to any new SE models that had been recently released.
The S700i was unmatched in the 1.3mp category during its time & so was the W900i with its "TV quality" video capturing prowess.
Wish SE did something that would blow away its competitors
Posted by @ftyk
i guess the swivel form factor is not very popular which is why when se makes a swivel phone they pack in the best they can so that the phone does well.
even the w550i is a pretty fine phone & would have done much better had it got a memory card slot.