Posted by gallois
I just got the Havanna Gold W910i on Voda in the UK.
Good
Call sound quality
walkman sound quality.
Build Quality
Slider
Thickness and weight
Style
Bad
Camera IMO is not great. No Autofocus (shame 1st review I read said it did have).
SE Media manager (AWFUL SOFTWARE) - I bought the pro for video - It won't even touch a DIVx file.
Protected media files (ringtones) Pop up in playlists in Walkman, no way to remove or delete - very annoying. MyPhoneExplorer doesn't see them.
Albumart. Very hit and miss, not consistent at all, prob very limited file types.
Shake, overrated feature, not sure it's really worthwhile. It's not a Wiimote
My overall impression is this is not really an improvement over the W880i.
My best ever SE was the W810i. Brilliant on all fronts, but my charging connector broke after about 9 months and needs a wiggle to charge now.
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PICS
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Posted by rockerZ
Could you post some unboxing photos ?
Posted by trance
does myphoneexplorer work with w910?
Posted by gallois
Yes MyPhoneExplorer does work, I was able to backup from my W810i and refresh my Havanna with all the contact and calendar info.
Pics attached to prev post. Sorry about the quality.
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Posted by lukealexander
How is the loudspeaker playing music on your W910, on my Orange branded handset is absolutely dire - the worst I have heard in a long time.
Posted by Pop Lover
yes tell us about the loudspeaker......also tell us about the headset
Posted by lukealexander
I haven't tried the headset yet (it is the standard Walkman headset) but I have used two identical ones in the past with a K800 and they were alright. I can't comment on the audio signal from the handset because I haven't taken the headset out yet (dunno if I am keeping the phone).
The loudspeaker is absolutely terrible. It sounds like somebody left a pair of headphones on the desk and is playing music through them. Lacks volume AND clarity.
As mentioned earlier, the software seems funny about showing album art. I put tracks on it which show albumart fine in iTunes, Windows Media Player & my iPod Nano 3G - no artwork shown. When I click the "hang up" key on Walkman it stops the player rather than minimizing it, meaning you have to go back through the menus to select "minimize"
The shake function is a huge gimmick. You have to hold the Walkman button on the top of the handset whilst flicking from side to side, which contorts your hands in a weird manner. The volume up/down keys when held perform the same action with much less effort.
The keypad is disappointing too, it is like a shiny plastic version of a Razr, with no vertical gap between keys and hardly any key travel - quite inferior to K800, 6300, W810 et al.
On the plus side, the screen is nice and the handset looks and feels solid.
Posted by SoniN95
i got this handset in noble black.
i never use my phones for music, i have an ipod for that. so the walkman feature is of no use to me, i brought it just cos its a nice phone.
however i used it 2day for music at the gym just to try it, and was totally yearning for my ipod:
the earphones didnt stay in my ears at all, also they have to be pushed in really far in order to hear the thumping bass. obviously this is just my ears, so no big deal. also the volume isnt very high.
for a walkman phone, i was dissapointed with the sound quality and could never use it as my main device for music. it was nowhere near ipod standard, which in theory it should be if they r branding it as a walkman phone. also, dunno if its just my phone or not, but when i had the equaliser on megabass, the volume fluctuated very slightly, but very noticable. well annoying. thats the 1st and last time i use a phone as an mp3 player, ill stick 2 the ipod.
to be honest this is not a big deal in the slightest, as i said thats the 1st time ive ever used a phone as an mp3 player. so even if it had no mp3 player at all i wouldnt mind.
things that do annoy me with the handset:
when in a call, there is no 1 touch button to activate/deativate loudspeaker, like in K810. u have to press a button 2 bring up a list of options, and u choose loudspeaker.
also with trackid, u can no longer send the result as a text message.
also the loudspeaker volume isnt very loud at all compared 2 k810.
but can put up with all that as its a great phone!
Posted by DarkKrypt
wheres darknoob i want him arguing here
seems
and this isnt meant to be a wiimote fyi.. so you cant expect too much for a beta version of JSR 256/accelorometer
..
isnt louder then a k810..well im buying a w810 today:)
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Posted by lukealexander
I'm not expecting too much of it, I just don't see the utility in adding it in the way they did.
Why not hold a different key, or have a global setting "allow shake controls without button hold" or something?
The accelerometer works fine for changing screen orientation, which is all it should be used for until they work the kinks out.
Have you tried using larger tips for the earphones? I find they stay in quite well with larger sizes.
==
Some other pet annoyances:
-not being able to adjust font size for writing/reading messages
-fastport on side of phone (surely not good for headphones?)
-no method to have specific ringtones/message tones in a given profile
EG, I want the Meeting profile to have a "beep" for alerts, and a normal ringtone for the General profile - yet this isn't possible to set up (as far as I can see)
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Posted by DarkKrypt
luke have you ever had a sony ericsson ?
"Some other pet annoyances:
1-not being able to adjust font size for writing/reading messages
2-fastport on side of phone (surely not good for headphones?)
3-no method to have specific ringtones/message tones in a given profile
EG, I want the Meeting profile to have a "beep" for alerts, and a normal ringtone for the General profile - yet this isn't possible to set up (as far as I can see)"
1.dont think it was ever possible with a majority of s.e phone
2 theyve put this in for walkman phones i understand why,because when you put it in your pocket it wont come out..if the port was down the bottom like my old k610 then it always kept comin out
thats why i bought bluetooth headset
3.i havent seen this change.. its same as my w880..and k610
so it seems youve been annoyed by s.e in general..im guessing beats me :s
edit:
and before i go
as if i wont buy this,,was just a little upset
i still love the w910 even if it has a poor speaker..i just wont play music around with it when my friends/girlfriend are around haha
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Posted by Watsworth
On 2007-10-17 01:19:41, SoniN95 wrote:
for a walkman phone, i was dissapointed with the sound quality and could never use it as my main device for music. it was nowhere near ipod standard, which in theory it should be if they r branding it as a walkman phone. also, dunno if its just my phone or not, but when i had the equaliser on megabass, the volume fluctuated very slightly, but very noticable. well annoying. thats the 1st and last time i use a phone as an mp3 player, ill stick 2 the ipod.
Out of Topic for a while..
Well u can acutally get a better in-ears earphones to get the better thumping sound "Bass" from the phone though.
I use my Shure E3g on my k810i. and it sounds just as good with the same audio format as my ipod. (at 320kbps) After all, the quality of the Earphones plays a part in making the music sound good.
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Posted by lastdon00
On 2007-10-16 23:01:22, gallois wrote:
I just got the Havanna Gold W910i on Voda in the UK.
Hmm isn't this phone Branded with Vodaphone software? so maybe that is why ur experiencing some of the issues ????????? like the drm songs showing up and can't be deleted.
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Posted by gallois
More comments on replies:
Loundspeaker. Def not as good as my K800i, but good enough for listening in the shower.
Headset - Same as my W810i, If you get the right size ear buds - very good sound. Interestingly, the W850i had a much better in line remote, the 910i just has the regular call answer/end button
Voda Branding - May be responsible for some issues, but I think it's maybe deeper than that.
Minimising music player. Def a step back as has been said, pressing back just stops the player, doesn't minimise it. Annoying when you just want to look at a text or a contact.
Fast port position,
I think this is better at the side too, I'm sure that's why my 810i port failed (dropping doesn't help either:))
I really like the way the phone looks, but I'm not sure the functionality is mature yet, which is strange seeing they obviously have most of this stuff sorted (810i is an example of that).
Posted by Pop Lover
Until the moment i getting versatile opinions about W910 Loudspeaker....
somebody said it's louder as W850
Somebody said it's louder as W580
and in this thread somebody said it's not much better than K810
and somebody said it's horrible like someone play music through headset on the table!!!
after all......I start believing no one ...... and I think i had to try the phone first then buy it
Posted by DarkKrypt
On 2007-10-17 09:19:25, Pop Lover wrote:
Until the moment i getting versatile opinions about W910 Loudspeaker....
somebody said it's louder as W850
Somebody said it's louder as W580
and in this thread somebody said it's not much better than K810
and somebody said it's horrible like someone play music through headset on the table!!!
after all......I start believing no one ...... and I think i had to try the phone first then buy it
dont worry pop lover ill compare it to my w880, my old k610, my friends v630
and other friends nokia 7370 and n80
how does that sound..?
Posted by Pop Lover
On 2007-10-17 10:19:25, DarkKrypt wrote:
On 2007-10-17 09:19:25, Pop Lover wrote:
Until the moment i getting versatile opinions about W910 Loudspeaker....
somebody said it's louder as W850
Somebody said it's louder as W580
and in this thread somebody said it's not much better than K810
and somebody said it's horrible like someone play music through headset on the table!!!
after all......I start believing no one ...... and I think i had to try the phone first then buy it
dont worry pop lover ill compare it to my w880, my old k610, my friends v630
and other friends nokia 7370 and n80
how does that sound..?
Sounds really good
I am gonna to trust you in this one
Thanks bro
Posted by gallois
I think he may have been being sarcastic!
Loadspeaker is not quite as good as my K800i or W810i
Headset is better that my K880i but not as good as my 850i
Posted by gallois
Can one of the ops move this thread to
Official Sony Ericsson w910 discussion
Please?
Thanks
Posted by Pop Lover
On 2007-10-17 11:14:06, gallois wrote:
I think he may have been being sarcastic!
Loadspeaker is not quite as good as my K800i or W810i
Headset is better that my K880i but not as good as my 850i
I think this is just impossible.......
No one can believe that K800 has better loudspeaker than W910 not even Equal
Posted by gallois
Believe it!
I've been using my K800i in the bathroom every day for the last few months. The Unit is bigger and the acoustics are better, the back lens cover props the phone up so the sound bounces off the surface it's on and back into the room. The 910i is flatter (these is a ridge around the speaker) so the sound has no where near as much acoustic space to develop so it sounds weaker.
Posted by DarkKrypt
On 2007-10-17 11:23:44, gallois wrote:
Believe it!
I've been using my K800i in the bathroom every day for the last few months. The Unit is bigger and the acoustics are better, the back lens cover props the phone up so the sound bounces off the surface it's on and back into the room. The 910i is flatter (these is a ridge around the speaker) so the sound has no where near as much acoustic space to develop so it sounds weaker.
odd
bouncy sound..i usually keep my phone face down/on a mock - screen - so the speaker has nothing to bounce off..so its louder..
dont forget clarity aswell..im not yet sure about the acoustics since i dont have the w910..
but it is very,very improbable.. but ill kinda take your word for it gallois.
also ill quote this from the w580 official thread..might come in handy after
"bballs91 - Hey i was just wondering how loud this is compared to something like the W850 or W880i?
PeterKay - w580i is much much louder than the w880i.
gabbyevs - thanks peter. is it beter than say the k610 fr pics?
PeterKay - outdoor yes i'd say! not a bad little device to be honest. "
^remember this and then what i said about comparing it to w880 (the w910) then you'll have an idea how loud it is as i assume you have a w880 pop lover?
Posted by Pop Lover
Ok
I Just Know that K850 Is Louder than K800
and also i know one buy the both phone K850 and W910
and he said W910 is much Louder than K850
So..........
Posted by Pop Lover
@DarkKrypt
actually I have W880, W850, W580!!!
I just need a confirm that
this phone equal or better than W850 loudspeaker
and i read from many owners that W910 is equal to W850 and W580
BTW There is not much difference between W850 and W580
I can easily say the W850 loudspeaker just like W580 loudspeaker Especially in walkman mode
but in the ringtone W850 is slightly louder than W580!
Posted by DarkKrypt
thats a good thing pop lover about the w850andw580
at least if the w910 sounds AS loud as those ^two phones AND has better clarity..ill be happy:)
..well it would be nice if you lived in melbourne because im thinking of chilling out at federation square or gloria jeans(Gloria Jeans Flinders St, 286) for a few hours for a day and show people the new w910
Posted by SilveR.
I will get mine W910 tomorrow.. I will compare the sound with K810 and W880i
Posted by DarkKrypt
cheers silver and enjoy the phone:)
Posted by lukealexander
As I mentioned earlier, I think my W910's speaker may be defective because I can't imagine a manufacturer putting out a product with such a poor quality of sound.
As for the Fastport on the side, it doesn't bother me too much since I only use it for data & charging, but if it were attached to a headset I might find it awkward. I didn't know K series still had it on the bottom.
Whoever asked me if I've ever owned a SE before, I have owned T610, K700, K750, K800 in addition to Nokia 3310, 8310, 7210, 6300 & Samsung E720. It may be true that these functions have never been available from SE ( I may simply not have noticed it ) but is that an excuse not to develop? Sony Ericsson never had an accelerometer before either, but they do now. My Nokia 6300 can set ringtones and alerts on a per-profile basis which is very useful. All companies should learn from each other which would result in better products for us.
I was looking in a phone store today at possible replacements for my W910 and was shocked at how large and ugly most of the handsets were. T650 is nice, 6500 Classic is nice but most others are very unattractive. So the W910 is good from that stand-point at least.
Posted by karlosperu
Memory M2 is 1GB o 2GB????
Posted by SilveR.
depend what of region u living..
Sweden we get 1GB
Posted by >500
Asia Pacific version currently comes with 2gb.
Posted by lukealexander
Also 1GB in UK
Posted by rockerZ
1GB Here in Middle East !
Posted by gola
On 2007-10-17 18:37:44, rockerZ wrote:
1GB Here in Middle East !
Posted by King_G3
@ gallois
"SE Media manager (AWFUL SOFTWARE) - I bought the pro for video - It won't even touch a DIVx file. "
I can confirm that this is the case. I just upgraded my "media manager" to the pro version and it does not recognise 95% of the media I have on my computer (Divx, AVI, mpeg, WMV). AND the media manager/pc suite does not support windows 2000!!!!!
I really wanted this software to be worthwhile but now it looks as though it is money down the drain.
I went for the W910 over the K850 mainly for the screen size and the compactness of the unit. I hardly ever use the camera so the 2MP camera doesn't really affect me. But what does affect me is that there is NO TORCH FUNCTION!!!
Apart from that I am really enjoying the unit.
Oh well, at least the screen is clear and bright. Now I just need to find some third party software to convert my movies as that is why I originally went for the unit.
PS
I got the phone on an ORANGE contract and can say that all the default music and videos that come with the phone can be deleted as I did that first thing.
Anyone recommend a good video converter software and settings for this thing?
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Posted by plankgatan
On 2007-10-17 01:05:19, lukealexander wrote:
I haven't tried the headset yet (it is the standard Walkman headset) but I have used two identical ones in the past with a K800 and they were alright. I can't comment on the audio signal from the handset because I haven't taken the headset out yet (dunno if I am keeping the phone).
The loudspeaker is absolutely terrible. It sounds like somebody left a pair of headphones on the desk and is playing music through them. Lacks volume AND clarity.
very odd that the speakers sounds bad...its a
for the love of god..(the speakers on k850 sounds good & loud...and no, im not trying to brag)...maybe 
have concentrate less on w910 and more on w960.....(it maybe make sense).
ps...if you want good bass sound (and usualy sound) check this out..(cost only 40 euro...have them myself...realy good stuff)..the w910 dosent come along with the headset
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Posted by Pop Lover
On 2007-10-17 21:36:15, King_G3 wrote:
@ gallois
"SE Media manager (AWFUL SOFTWARE) - I bought the pro for video - It won't even touch a DIVx file. "
I can confirm that this is the case. I just upgraded my "media manager" to the pro version and it does not recognise 95% of the media I have on my computer (Divx, AVI, mpeg, WMV). AND the media manager/pc suite does not support windows 2000!!!!!
I really wanted this software to be worthwhile but now it looks as though it is money down the drain.
I went for the W910 over the K850 mainly for the screen size and the compactness of the unit. I hardly ever use the camera so the 2MP camera doesn't really affect me. But what does affect me is that there is NO TORCH FUNCTION!!!
Apart from that I am really enjoying the unit.
Oh well, at least the screen is clear and bright. Now I just need to find some third party software to convert my movies as that is why I originally went for the unit.
PS
I got the phone on an ORANGE contract and can say that all the default music and videos that come with the phone can be deleted as I did that first thing.
Anyone recommend a good video converter software and settings for this thing?
[ This Message was edited by: King_G3 on 2007-10-17 20:38 ]
Go for JetAudio
Posted by DarkKrypt
@plankgatan
those are the hpm83
im getting them too
nice and great stylish headphones
Posted by King_G3
@ pop lover
Thanks for the advice, but as I am in the UK it costs about £17 to download the whole program. I need to know it will do what i want it do first before i spend any more money on video convertors.
Have you used this software before and does it have the correct settings for the W910i or would that be something i need to specify myself when encoding?
I really want to try it and make the most of my W910 but i am hesitant on loosing money again (Media Manager Pro)
Again thanks for your help
Posted by gallois
@King_G3
I haven't tried this but give it a go, It's a java ap that turns the screen white so you can use as a torch, should work well with the 910i as the screen is so big.
http://www.substanceofcode.com/software/torch-midlet/
Posted by Pop Lover
On 2007-10-17 23:49:34, King_G3 wrote:
@ pop lover
Thanks for the advice, but as I am in the UK it costs about £17 to download the whole program. I need to know it will do what i want it do first before i spend any more money on video convertors.
Have you used this software before and does it have the correct settings for the W910i or would that be something i need to specify myself when encoding?
I really want to try it and make the most of my W910 but i am hesitant on loosing money again (Media Manager Pro)
Again thanks for your help
here is a link to download
http://rapidshare.com/files/24975387/JA.rar
Password of the RAR files if requested:
Password: bb.bearslinks.info
after Setup
Just you have to right click on the video file then from JetAudio Sub Menu Choose Conver Video
Setup these Output settings for the target video file to be Player in your W910:
Mp4
MPEG4 + ACC
Size: 320 * 240
Fram Rate: 29.97
Video Bitrate:- 512Kbps
Audio Bitrate:96Kbps
If you find the video show some slowing at your W910 just low down Video Bitrate to 384Kbps
Enjoy
Posted by C905
On 2007-10-17 11:14:06, gallois wrote:
I think he may have been being sarcastic!
Loadspeaker is not quite as good as my K800i or W810i
Headset is better that my K880i but not as good as my 850i
i´ve tried it, and the speakers are better and louder than w850 and nearly as good as w550 (i said only nearly
)
Posted by Pop Lover
On 2007-10-18 09:50:40, k850 successor wrote:
On 2007-10-17 11:14:06, gallois wrote:
I think he may have been being sarcastic!
Loadspeaker is not quite as good as my K800i or W810i
Headset is better that my K880i but not as good as my 850i
i´ve tried it, and the speakers are better and louder than w850 and nearly as good as w550 (i said only nearly
)
What do you mean exactly the Loudspeaker or the headset?
Posted by DarkKrypt
On 2007-10-18 09:32:26, Pop Lover wrote:
here is a link to download
http://rapidshare.com/files/24975387/JA.rar
Password of the RAR files if requested:
Password: bb.bearslinks.info
after Setup
Just you have to right click on the video file then from JetAudio Sub Menu Choose Conver Video
Setup these Output settings for the target video file to be Player in your W910:
Mp4
MPEG4 + ACC
Size: 320 * 240
Fram Rate: 29.97
Video Bitrate:- 512Kbps
Audio Bitrate:96Kbps
If you find the video show some slowing at your W910 just low down Video Bitrate to 384Kbps
Enjoy
im always willing to try converters:)
thanks pop lover
also check out what ive added at w910 video encoder
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=157233#post2135560
Posted by DarkKrypt
@k850 successor - thats nice to hear:)
then @pop lover high 5!
and i think he means loudspeaker
Posted by chilko
here are some unboxing photos made by me - http://www.flickr.com/photos/87544844@N00/sets/72157602550324706/
[ This Message was edited by: chilko on 2007-10-20 12:48 ]
Posted by DarkKrypt
On 2007-10-20 13:26:34, chilko wrote:
here are some unboxing photos made by me - http://www.flickr.com/photos/87544844@N00/sets/72157602550324706/
[ This Message was edited by: chilko on 2007-10-20 12:48 ]
OH MY GOD SO nice the red phone is:D
AND you got the red before me!:p luck you
nice pics too
Posted by >500
dont worry @dark.
you will have yours by tuesday
Posted by DarkKrypt
ITS IN TRANSIT
TO AUSSIELAND
Posted by SilveR.
Just played with mine phone few hours today..
The build quality is like my Vaio SZ, very good quality..
and the keys are most same as old S700 .. I like it
And I don't miss the back button yet.. not at this phone
There is lot of pros..
The most negative maybe it's only 2 mpx camera.. but we all know it's fashion phone..