Posted by axxxr
Lucy, 18, spouted a stream of bigotry before appalled fellow contestants on Shipwreck.
In scenes screened just hours before C4 boss Luke Johnson apologised for the Jade Goody Celebrity BB race row, she ranted: "Britain is a complete mess.
"I just don't appreciate people coming into our country and taking over our culture.
"We've got way too many cultures. Britain's not really Britain any more.
"I'm for the British Empire and things. I'm for slavery, but that's never going to come back."
Asked why she did not like black people, she said: "From what I've seen they're really bad."
When another contestant said she did not like racists, Lucy replied: "I'm afraid you have one here."
The gap year teenager, who spent 10 years in all-girls' boarding schools, then told her companions she hated fat people.
She said: "They're offensive. They can help it - eat less, exercise more, get their stomachs stitched."
On the Shipwrecked website she adds: "I can't stand fat and ugly people. They really bring you down."
I find this quite disturbing that these are views of a educted person from a decent upper class family.
Does this really reflect our british society today?or is this all just a storm in a tea cup?..you decide!
Posted by BobaFett
hmm... our community is honoured by many uk members, whos families are from so many different countries from all around the world. i myself cannot judge the situation, even i heard about sg in the news, but thats all. i dont wish to judge, but would be happy to follow this thread, cos as mentioned above, only those could point here on the important aparts of it, who live in the uk.
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Miss Lucy Buchanan should look at which country her ancestry is from, shes hardly british herself. That name is Scottish. A Scott talking in favour of a British empire??? hmmmm??? I dont think so lol.
Like that BBC programme a little while ago where it was showing most of the people in Britain originate from abroad anyway, like the stuck up posh speaking aristocrat woman was found to have ancestors from China!
You got to laugh at these clowns
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Posted by goldenface
Sounds to me like an attempt at grabbing ratings by Channel4, shouldn't have been broadcast. Silly, silly little girl.
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
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This confirms what you said
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1248848,00.html
Posted by absinthebri
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What's un-British about being Scottish?
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
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Try asking Scottish people I know that question lol.
Posted by absinthebri
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I'm Scottish (and British) and I'm asking.
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Do I really need to write century's of history in this reply.
I would'nt call myself British in fact I'd be ashamed.
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Posted by absinthebri
I'm British and I'm not ashamed.
I'm Scottish first though.
Posted by fatreg
i'm not Biritish,
I'm English.
winds me up something rotten when I have to claim to be British.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
fatreg
PS. and yes, i've done my research and im English right back until the saxon times..
Posted by absinthebri
Hey, frateg, what does your passport say your nationality is? Did you send it back on principle?
Posted by fatreg
im not allowed to send it back.
i did however ask at the post office!
any other app form gets other and English on it
fatreg
Posted by axxxr
Are we having a bit of Racism between the Scots and the English now?
We are all part of this great island and thats what matters,being British represents us all.
Posted by absinthebri
That comment of hers about bringing back slavery... it's just outrageous. I'm gob-smacked.
Mind you, if she wants to be my slave, I imagine I could fit her in.
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Yes how silly she is and very ignorant as well. If it wasn't for the asians, africans and west indians I don't think Britain will be Britain as we know it today. I find it so interesting to meet all sorts of people from different back grounds and cultures.
Posted by axxxr
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yeh that was quite shocking and the first comment that:
\"I just don't appreciate people coming into our country and taking over our culture\"
I was more shocked of the fact that she's only 18 years old and from a well to do family.
The younger generation should be fighting against these sort of attitudes and views.
very dissapointing that we have people like this in 2007.
Posted by leeboy13
as far as what was said on shipwrecked - I'm also gob smacked to see the 'higher' educated people saying similar things as 'lower' educated Jade Goodie... people are too naive these days to see the problems that are really in front of them - they just jump on the nearest bandwagon and point the finger....
i mean to even mention slavery in this day and age, especially this country is disgusting. So much for equal rights eh?!?
i think the the root of most racist rants are due to jealously in that people now have to work harder, fight for their jobs and not given things on a plate.... i see nothing wrong with this, if anything it helps Britain become a stronger country (if you look at the bigger picture)...
now as for this silly British, Scottish blah blah blah.... come on peeps, how ridiculous do you sound? I'm welsh and most certainly British... in fact id be happy to call myself British.... but in discussing this aren't we missing the point this thread was intended for?
But one final thing i want to say is these are only opinions (jade goodies, and the shipwrecked girl) i personally think a mountain is being made here when in actual fact i don't think the people saying these things intended to be as harmful as what they have been... i guess what i mean is, why do people also jump on the racism bandwagon?? and take a something one narrow minded person says as offensive - surely in winning attitude would be something more on the lines of 'doh, ill educated girls there - sad really, they'll never be happy with that kind of attitude'.... anyone with a ounce of sense would have seen them and thought 'plonker'....
Posted by goldenface
Well I don't think her being from a well-to-do family has anything to do with it.
Just because she may be from a wealthy family doesn't automatically mean she should know any better - she could be just as thick and offensive as the next person.
She should be made to go and work with under-privileged children from ethnic backgrounds for a week or two - that would sort her stupid emaciated mind out.
I am surprised at Channel4. I used to love watching Shipwrecked when it was on TV Sunday morning. It didn't need another ratings push ala Jade Woody.
On the British issue, I too know a couple of Scots who hate being called British
because they don't want to be taking the flak for all the wrong-doing the English have done in the past.
Plus, if I'm not mistaken, I seem to remember both the West Country and Yorkshire murmurings for self-rule.
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Posted by leeboy13
I just want to clarify i wasnt saying that because she was 'higher' educated it was worse - just slightly suprised as i thought she may have thought before opening her mouth... hence why i said also.....
and i still find the whole scottish thing petty......
laughable actually
oh, and im with yer on the whole used to love watching shipwrecked..... always wanted to have a crack at that show
but its sad how some people can change your mind over speaking such crap aint it... oh well, hopefully she'll leave later
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Posted by goldenface
@leeboy
I didn't watch the first episode but I will probably still carry on watching it - I just wish Channel4 should stop stirring up the race thing in order to grab ratings.
Whatever will they do next - an episode of Wife Swap involving a Jewish family and a family of Nazi-sympathisers?
Posted by leeboy13
would not atall suprise me goldenface
every wife swap ive seen recently just takes the pi$$
they make sure its gonna go up in flames and if it dont im sure they just dont air it....
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Posted by pachy
OK, heres how i see it,
Britain is a country MADE almost entirely of financial imigrants, if your british then that means YOU !! or at best your ancesters just a few generations back.
In the TV & film world there is a saying, "all publicity is GOOD publicity".
The girl in question ( BNP meets Princess) is extremely ignorant & has nothing of any real value to add to society until maybe she matures & experiences the world a bit. she is spouting overheard drunken afterdinner talk from th narrow world sh was brought up in.
I think its very funny what she says & anyone who doesnt realise she was obviously picked for her outrageous views is also daft.
Posted by Xugaa
Channel 4 seems to think they can gain popularity through set up racism.
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Posted by brix25
@Xugaa: Would hardly say she was set-up to spew ridiculous comments.
I think British people will have to deal with the consequences Globalisation. You get cheaper products and services but more people entering your country to benefit from your booming economy which they then help to sustain by offering their labour for next to nothing.
Posted by Xugaa
I do believe that Channel 4 is setting things like this up for more viewers, thousands more people tuned into Big Brother when there was news about racism going on in the house. I never watch the program, it quite frankly is a complete waste of electricity and time.
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Posted by craig_l
Way down here in Cornwall when you fill out a hospital form or something White Cornish is there as a nationality along with White British etc.
Not sure if they still do this, it was a few years ago when I last saw a form with White Cornish as a choice.
Posted by pachy
I've never actually seen a white person, or a black person, just lots of nice shades inbetween.
Posted by p900 lover
What i don't understand is why is channel 4 taking the blame for it, they didnt ask her to say it, they didn't make Jade say what she did, i don't think its fair for a media organisation to take the blame for their contestants actions.
Posted by kcassidy
whats even worse is that shipwrecked was filmed 20 weeks ago so they could have cut that out so people wouldnt see it but i suppose they just want people to watch it and i guess its working
kcassidy
Posted by leeboy13
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id agree, but what do you think those parts that are blanked out are? they obviously choose what to air and what not too.......