Posted by ronasanz
yeah dudes. just want to compare all N series with SE high end phones.
In the subject N73 vs k800i, it seems that the former prevails. Just to conclude,
For those users who prefer too many features, go N series and
for those who wants simplicity and user friendly, go SE
N-series have good features but too complicated that common people find hard way to catch up. AND ALL N-SERIES (EXCEPT N70) ARE NO. 1 HANG- TIME DEVICE. Because the memory cannot handle too much features that it has. Maybe nokia should first create hi-speed processor before installing applications and feature to their phone.
SE on the other hand has limited features and there goes the question, "Why SE does not develop or improve video quality?" Like MPEG4 format, 25fps recording and the likes. Music Player that does not support WMA. Contrary to the image of sony corp. that invaded the DV camera in the world market. In fact, it's a big shame on their part since Nokia has tied up with Carl Zeiss Optics, which everyone in the whole world knows that sony owns that reputation. Tsk tsk.
Posted by Aivar
Some N-series phones can work both in 3G and GSM 850/900/1800/1900. There is no such kind Sony Ericsson phone yet.
Posted by Mano Khan
My W810 has this feature (if iam not mistaken) coz its quadband !!
Posted by baste07
but its not 3G..... quad band... how many poeople need it anyways?
Posted by QVGA
Whats the point of this topic? Cant u see a topic N73 vs K800 already made?
Posted by Dogmann
@ronasanz
Nice thread but as you have already stated the N73 beats the K800 and i don't know what makes you think N series phones are No1 Hang time as sorry that's just rubbish. Its a bit like saying SE are No1 for White screen of death or brand new phones refuse to charge and just die, Oh hang that is right oops.
My N93 has a faster processor 330mhz and more powerful 3D graphics chip than any SE offering also i have more Ram on start up than the SE smartphones. I get video recording @30fps in 640x480, My apps all open much faster than on my M600, My screen is visible in nearly all lighting conditions and the list goes on the only thing that SE has is a touchscreen and A2DP stereo bluetooth, due to this the screen is only good in certain lighting conditions. Not just MO either read All About Symbian site for a detailed review.
Really the only other point of your post i can agree on is that N series phones are smartphones and may be more complicated and offer more features than many users want or need. In which case choose something else.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2006-11-10 15:21 ]
Posted by Dups!
Yipee! Another replica of the N73 vs K800i, just what we need.
Posted by Residentevil
Smells like mods closing in.
Posted by sesukaku
ronasanz.. K800 and W850 already support WMA
Posted by jack77777
i have both n73 and w850i , i dont know if its cos my w850i is new but my w850i seems way better !
Posted by Dogmann
@QVGA & EMS06
I think the clues in the title N Series v SE he wants to compare all N series phones against SE's although he does compare those 2 phones yet again along with some other in correct information and assumptions IMO.
Marc
Posted by mib1800
N-series are multimedia computers whereas SE, well just phones.
Posted by Dups!
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I understand your point Dogmann, however the N73 vs K800i thread has brought out just about everything about the N-series compared to K-series in terms of features, design and software to mention just a few.
Posted by mib1800
EMS06
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I understand your point Dogmann, however the N73 vs K800i thread has brought out just about everything about the N-series compared to K-series in terms of features, design and software to mention just a few. |
One aspect that has not been brought is the advanced "multimedia computer" capability N-series. Here I list of capability (which I am using actively) that N-series can do:-
1. Advanced Profiles (integrated with calendar) - Phone automatically turn on/off profile based on predefined keywords, start and end time in calendar entries. Additionally phone can auotmatically perform additional actions when a profile is changed like changing theme, run an application, turn on/off bluetooth, change hotkeys mapping etc. E.g. set a meeting entry in calendar and phone will automatically turn on "meeting" profile at specified time. Additionally the phone theme is changed and the in-phone answering machine/IVR app is turned on. At end of meeting, phone revert back to last profile/theme and close the app.
2. Advanced Call Management. In-phone answering machine with IVR (i.e. caller is prompted to select options during call). Also black/white list of phone numbers can be set up to filter calls. And schedule can be setup when different actions are perfomed. E.g. During sleeping hours you can set all phone calls (except those in white-list) to in-phone answering machine. During meeting, you can tell the caller to press a key to ring your phone if it is very urgent otherwise the default in-phone answering machine will kick in.
3. Cell-based "gps" (dont need gps receiver). By recording cell-station locations info, phone can automatically perform actions like send sms, change profile, etc based on which cell-station the phone is currently connected to. E.g. when picking up someone, the phone will automatically send sms to that person when you are near the pickup point. When used in conjunction with Advanced Profiles and Call Management you can create any type of automated phone actions.
4. Schedule pre-specified sms to be sent automatically at predefined time by entering a "command" string as title in the calendar entry.
5. Use the phone as fax machine to receive or send fax.
6. Voice notes/reminder/todo (integrated with calendar) - Press a hotkey to record a memo/notes. Recorded voice note will be inserted into calendar where you can then set schedule or alarm. Use this instead of typing on the keypad.
7. Multitude of full dictionaries, translation/voice dictionary and e-books.
8. Play hundreds of games including console games using emulators.
9. Control your phone camera/activate app like recording remotely by calling your phone and pressing keytone or sending sms with embedded command to your phone.
10. Use phone as sound monitor and motion detector. Can set phone to automatically perform actions (like sms, call, start app) when sound exceed certain level or there is motion detected by camera.
11. Construct cool ringtones using fireplayer or edit your movie or view the web with a full webbrowser or open any office/pdf documents.
12. Use the phone as multimedia player (video and audio). You can install many codecs to playback any media file format.
13. Use minute manager to tally your calls/sms usage. Also can create auto-callback to save on tariff.
14. Use the comprehensive blog system to create a blog of all your call/sms, video, audio, photo etc.
15. And many others utility app like scientific calculator, ftp, telnet, p2p, bluetooth remote control, personal productivity apps
Posted by bavlondon2
Ok so lets take a look at some comparasims in short:
Well for the n73/n93 vs k800 in terms of imaging the k800 wins. Infact i was severly dissapointed with the quality of the n93s pictures. Not to mention the k800 is the cheapest of the 3 and still has the best flash on the market.
Music phones: N91 VS W950
Well pros of the n91 is that it has camera but thats about it.
The w950 is also symbian and also has the added benefit of incorporating flash memory as well as a nice Touchscreen with QVGA resolution and great battery life. Where as the n91 uses old type microdrive.
Business phones:
E61/N80 vs M600/P990.
Well there really is no comparasim here with either phones.
Ive played with the e61 and for what it does if i wanted something of similar size id go for a blackberry.
N80 is ok. Nice screen is about as good as it gets. No point having wifi in my opinon with such a poor battery life. Slider is very badley designed an does not feel tight or stable as the samsungs do.
Nice 3mp camera but why do Nokia not put a lens cover here?
Overall Nokia release a bigger range but are not consistent enough. Whn they start fixing 4 month old bugs like purple fog or grainey video then they can consider thmelves to be more popular but on the whole if say SE win.
[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2006-11-11 13:40 ]
Posted by nettl
bavlondon2, would be great if you take off your pink fanboy glasses from time to time...honestly.
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Posted by jack77777
balls to nokia and their Nseries sony ericsson rule id pick w850i over n73 anyday
Posted by Dogmann
@bavlondon2
Whilst you may compare the N73 and K800 the N93 defiantly can't be compared to a K800 as that's just plain stupid. The K800 is merely a Camera phone big deal N73 is a smartphone plus stereo speakers for both Music and Video. The K800 may have a xenon flash but that is all it has and only takes better pictures in low light conditions big deal.
I find it very rich you find fault with the Nokia's yet totally ignore white screen of death and K800's that die with low batt and refuse to work again.
It seems OK for SE to constantly release firmware updates to fix bugs but for any other manufacturer this is a major problem very strange logic being applied here.
As to video tell me of one SE phone any phone that comes anywhere near to the quality of the N93, simple answer you can't because they don't we get a lot here are SE fanboys and entitled to your preferences but get real and stop talking absolute rubbish it just makes you look stupid.
@jack77777
Of course you would pick a W850 over a N73 as for a start you are a SE fanboy and second of all ones a Walkman phone the others a smartphone and obviously smarter than you are with that type of stupid comment.
Marc
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Posted by jack77777
bit harsh lol , i dnt like n73 cos it corrupts everything i install
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Jack77777,
Sorry but felt your comment was also a bit harsh hence my response and have no idea why everything you installed was corrupted as that is very strange. At the end of the day everyone is free to choose what suits them best and from what i have seen the W850 does look like a great Walkman phone i hope you enjoy it. Just a little bored of people slating anything that is not SE it's just so boring.
Marc
Posted by Dups!
It definitely feels like we're on part 2 of the N73 and K800i. Again, I'm well aware of the topic. Having said that, I do feel that the comparisons are useless, particularly when you consider that the N-series are smartphones and K-series are camera phones. Exactly what are we trying to achieve? Can you honestly and objectively compare a Ferrari with a BMW? Certain aspects yes but never the whole product.
Posted by mib1800
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bavlondon2Well for the n73/n93 vs k800 in terms of imaging the k800 wins. Infact i was severly dissapointed with the quality of the n93s pictures. |
This article says N93 camera is better than K800. Do we want to believe the public survey results conducted or your statement?
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n73-cam-en.shtml
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The w950 is also symbian and also has the added benefit of incorporating flash memory as well as a nice Touchscreen with QVGA resolution and great battery life. Where as the n91 uses old type microdrive. |
but SE crippled W950 without camera and wifi.
And the UIQ3 in W950 is still very unstable compared to S60. There are also much less software available.
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Overall Nokia release a bigger range but are not consistent enough. Whn they start fixing 4 month old bugs like purple fog or grainey video then they can consider thmelves to be more popular but on the whole if say SE win. |
After 2 firmware releases the P990 (and M600) are still crashing like there is no tomorrow. That is consistency for you.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi mib1800
Whilst i get your point of view the easier answer re N91 v W950 is the difference in time between release ones been out for ages the other is just released and as we know technology keeps on moving forward wait till the Music additions of the N80, N73 and N91 with 8gb of storage arrive shortly.
Also i have disagree with part of your statement the M600 with the latest unbranded firmware R9A does not crash and is very stable. It just is very slow when compared to S60 3rd Edition devices and lacks the ability to even customize the home screen with only 4 shortcuts plus main menu. I can't speak for the P990 as i don't own one or want to but it definitely is not as stable or fast as the N93 by all accounts.
Marc
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Posted by carkitter
Flag the features, I think they're all ugly phones with the N91 the worst of the lot. Including Wifi is clever, but if it's my $NZ900 it'd be heading in the direction of a K800.
Posted by shadoweaver
i don't think n-series and walkman phones can be compared on equal ground since the n-series are smartphones while the walkman is clearly not.
they each have their own merits but let's remember that they're of a different class. that's why nokia released music versions of some of their phones to compete with SE's walkmans.