Posted by tindo196
Just me being curious ,ive seen a lot of ex P900/10 owners bad mouth the p990 .ive also seen a lot praise it with reservations regarding future updates.My question would be what do u think of the P990 as compared to the p900/10 models ,is it a fitting successor to these models?And in your experience does it compare favourably to other current smartphones if its bugs were ironed out despite the delays?
[ This Message was edited by: tindo196 on 2006-10-14 18:46 ]
Posted by darky
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Posted by hgautam
P990 has never ever met my expectations. Not even when it was announced. It was low on specs and was not overall as sexy as my P910. My main concern is not its bugs or slow speed, its the sound quality and volume that disappoints me the most (Its nowhere near P910).
Posted by Jah
Subject to fixes for memory leaks I am very impressed with the P990. I bought a newish P910 recently (gave my original to a friend who was going through a divorce, it cheered him up!) to compare. The P990 is not just on a connectivity basis in a different league but the screen, graphics and hardware quality are just superb when compared to the P910. And the P910 is not quicker, it suffers from pauses and delays. The problem is the P990 can do so much that if you try to run all the power apps together eventually it runs out off RAM. Also if you think that the p910 is a P800 after 3 years of development then the P990 is not bad - but it does show that the P1000 will be the 'P910' of UIQ3/Symbian 9.
Posted by Indiandawg
YES.
i think p990i bugs and problems have been highly hyped...
people need to understand it has low ram so it will take few seconds to load.
its very slow when u save a bluetooth transfer message when its a mp3 or any audio format or a small 3gp clip or any video format. | but m sure SE will come out with a update firmware and fix this problem
the main problem that everybody is facing is the restart and hangs | always close ur apps thorugh task manager always...or eles install swiss manager and check the option (close the flip and automatically the applications are closed by swiss manager) this is the thing which everybody needs to go thru otherwise p990i is a buggy phone...!!!
yes its not as smooth as p910i but try to deal with it.. iv been also doing this practice when i had p910i...i always use to close applications and..even in p910i iv faced big time problems but those bugs were never hyped but when it comes to p990i i dunno the problems are hyped a lot...
at times iv seen if somebody does a mistake and finds it as a bug.. the reaction is totally negative that it will be updated in the new firmware cmon first look what are you doing..!!
iv seen many people they juzz tab tab and tab.. and invites the bug..they cant wait a single second...!! p990i is like a pc and this pc is not fast enough...!!!
but if u see features wise its amazing !! i love the
camera(2mp and now u can hide alll the icons.. and shyts.. and juzz feel like u have an o2 xda)
rss feeds(love this new feature)
web (p910i web had disappointed me but p990i awsome !! all thanks to opera)
video(awsome.. video playback it gives i love it..infact its really great to watch a movie in p990i)
audio(disappointed with audio playback very less volume but its ok.. it hardly matters)
task manager(i use it everyday and as i said closing apps..so..its very imp feature for p990i)
follow up call(awsome feature when u reject a call it gives u an option of adding a task or no..i use it when m busy in tuts...i juzz click the no button and afta tutions i come out and task shows me at this time there was an incoming call)
messaging(amazing this time.. esaily could setup the gmail account and works like a charm, wat disappoints is the bluetooth messaging..takes lot of time to save)
calendar ( i wud say far better than p910i's calendar i remember i had to install a app something called birthday reminder or something but this time they have given the option as aniversary and also it shows u very systemticaly when u click on dat date it shows what reminders u have saved)
LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST
WIFI (ok its amazing works awsome ...iv been using wifi daily @ home and it works very nice...also iv tried outside...and ders no problems that i have faced)
CONCLUSION:
amazing phone with power packed features...but only one mistake is taking the phone to hell is the lower ram !!
SE YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT RAM IN UR NEXT P SERIES PHONE
cheers !!
Posted by liamski
I think Indiandawg sums it up nicely
Posted by Adz21
i couldnt agree more! i love my p990 its everything i expected! My p910 used to crash and reset in order to improve performance everyday , it did it in the middle of phone calls and in my pocket doing nothing!My 990's done it 3 times in the last 2 weeks! Its not a big deal and im sure firmware updates will sort other "problems" out!
Too many people have jumped on the bandwagon to slag it off! I just hope people are not influeced by the more respected users opinions who slag this great phone off, and are put of buying one for themselves!
Posted by adhussain
I'm pretty happy, bugs are there but nothing major as far as my device is concerned, future firmwares should hopefully clear those out as well.
It ain't over till the fat lady sings...........................
[ This Message was edited by: adhussain on 2006-10-14 23:49 ]
Posted by Dale_jeffs
if the P990i was released in Q1 i think it would have been more impressive. when i first saw the P990i back in November i though wow now that i have 1 i expected alot more for my wait.
its definatly better than my old P910i but i think they could of done better. i wont be keeping mine long
Posted by royalty
most people'
s expectations are beond logic , im very happy with my p990
Posted by adnhk1
Hi Adz21, I think you have had a faulty P910i. Apart from myself plus 6 other friends, I have at least 50 over users owning a P910i in the company I worked for the past 2 years, and all of our P910i can last for at least one full month before a reboot is required on our P910i.
As for P990i, I don't quite agree that the issues being posted are hyped. They are there and we have to note, that the P990i was released in most Asian countries since mid August 2006. For the past 2 months, 2 new versions of firmware have already been released but still, simple bugs like Alarm not working properly (this issue happens very unpredictably) and even call logs and Connections logs are not working properly. Speaking of alarm, it just woke me up at 6am this morning, which it is supposed to be riniging during weekedays
Oh, the bug where in areas that 3G signal is weak, will cause the GSM signal to be equally weak thereby causing the phone to lost connection oftenly. This may be dependant on operator's 3G implementation, but it does not happen to even a i year old W900i at the very same location with the same operator. There are many more simple bugs that are not supposed to be even there for any flagship devices, but well... Remember, 2 firmware updates have already been released, how many more must we wait till they finally fix all those long list of bugs?
Btw, the M600i latest firmware still have a list of bugs "unsolved". So I am not so optimistic should SE release the same Organiser R4C firmware for the P990i in the coming week.
I had read thru most of the almost 30 pages long bugs thread on P990i. What I realises is that many of the issues being faced by users are in one way of another related to RAM memory going too low and hence their apps are not working properly. If SE had in the very first place given us 128MB RAM memory instead of the current 64MB, 1/2 of the issues in the bug thread will not be there in the very first place. This is a combination of hardware, OS and UIQ 3 issue, so it may only be resolved in the next P series and not via any firmware updates for P990i
I had actually mentioned many times with regards to lack of RAM memory issue on the P990i as compared to P910i ever since CommunicAsia 2006 in June this year, so it is all up to individual whether or not he/she can accept to wait for 5 secs or more when they wanted to use apps like messaging, calendar, contacts, etc (errr, I mean 5 secs or more to wait for EACH application to start up). Whether or not he/she can accept his active application being killed off by the OS automatically when he tries to multitask a little, eg, read my post to SE developer's here:
http://developer.sonyericsson[....].jspa?threadID=33163&tstart=15
Actually, the issues from developer's forum happens even w/o contacts, calendar being opened. I just need to perform those things with just notes and tasks will be enough for the OS to kill off everything, including those things that I was actively doing, like listening to music
Many of us are paying a premium price for the P990i. The P990i is at the same price range as WM 5 devices like TyTN, but comes with a processor speed that is 1/2 that of TyTN. The TyTN has got more RAM memory than the P990i too, hence making it a better option for multitasking, for the very first time on a WM device
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=133132
Posted by drgopoos
a big no for the time being...
an yes might emerge once the further updates come
Posted by thebamboozle
yes im very satisfied, and i will be even more happy when the new FWs come..
Posted by Indiandawg
Lemme tell you one thing clearly guys UIQ 3.0 is beautifull and smartly maid !! before i thought i wud not like UIQ 3.0 cause i was quiest addicted to the basic features of UIQ 2.0
but only problem in UIQ 3.0 is the RAM...but there is a solution to deal with it
while if u compre UIQ 3.0 with WM 5.0 m sorry UIQ 3.0 wins easily..for me at least !!
Posted by Dummaari
not wht i expected to be..
but still the best for me from whts on the market right now.
I guess i am going to P990 because of UIQ, But this UIQ is having a lot of BUGS.
Windows mobile is not my choice for sure
Posted by Jah
@adnhk1
just for the record, I have a Generic World phone and I have no bugs related to incorrect alarms and no problems with 3G or 2G signals, no problems with the Cam or call logs. I am not sure why some P990s are more reliable, perhaps SE have not released the latest FW for all regions yet
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[ This Message was edited by: Jah on 2006-10-15 08:16 ]
Posted by adnhk1
Hi Jah, for call logs issue, that is the problem which I am trying to find out over at my-symbian (guess you might already have read that some guys also faces the same issues over there too). If the bugs does not happened on all P990i, then what could be the cause of it? For e.g., I depended on the P990i's alarm every weekday morning to wake me up. But at times it spontaneously just rang out during weekends too, but this does not happen on all weekends, about 5 times out of my 2 mths usages, which is irritating enough imho. WEEKENDS
The call logs is not registered for at least 50% of the time for most of my fellow P990i owners in my local SE Community too. We are all using the same Generic World 2 firmware, and yes, Organiser R3B01 is the latest firmware, and yes, I had performed master reset, re-upgrade the firmware and even perform reformat of internal memory but still the issues persists. Unless we could prove that all P990i released in Aug 2006 are faulty units, else these issues are bugs to all of us
Posted by Indiandawg
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u must have bought the phone without bill (from grey market)
so many problems nobody has it !! lol best of luck tho !!
Posted by adnhk1
Hi Indiandawg, nope, ours are local retail release and bought directly from local retail outlets with full local SE warranty. In our country, grey markets were during then selling the P990i at USD$1k plus, while local warrantied sets costs USD$800. So people with the right mind will not purchase from grey markets which is not only more expensive, but also NO warranty whatsoever from SE.
Posted by margonda206
For me P990i fairly lived up to my expectation, especially with all the button arrangement and the function to go for short cut to most of the main functions/ programs of the phone.
For the graphics I still chose Windows Mobile.
For the audio quality (MP3 and phone audio) I chose P990i.
For Dimension wise P990i a bit to thick.
For the speed my P990i still slower than my SE M600i (hopefully because of the firmware).
For the photo & video quality, I chose P990i compare to most of the WinMobile pda's.
For the playback of the video, I put equal performance for P990i to WinMoblie pda's.
For the simple and easyness I chose P990i compare to WinMobile pda's.
Those are most of the points I feel using the P990i compare to other phone and pda that I already use.
My expectation is that SonyEricsson will focus and put effort to continually make the firmware more stable and faster.
Don't just upgrade the firmware untill certain period and then release the new model to make up the competition in smartphone industry.
Posted by Jah
@adnhk1
at the last FW i did not use the backup i started afresh as i was worried about corrupt data generated by the previous Firmware. Why try a reflash and input new settings
Posted by antz88c
satisfied and happy user to think this is my first p series.
took the risk and bought it the day it was officially released/launched, aug 26, 2006 here in the Philippines.
I have read a lot of horrible stories (prior to Philippine release) and still went on with my purchase.
its been almost 2 months now and i am still in love with my p990i. I got few kernel errors and crashes and these issues didnt bother me at all. A restart will do for me until a more 'stable' firmware is released by SE.
i would consider myself as medium to heavy user, sending sms/mms, voice and video calling, wifi, taking pictures, some word and spreadsheet. And my p990i never fails me.
I usually restart my phone every morning.
Master reset and flip off since day one.
Tried Swiss Manager Free Edition, uninstalled and never looked back.
I am on Generic World2;
Phone: CXC162037 R7A001
Bluetooth: CXC162058 R4F01
Organiser: CXC162036 R3B01
CDA: CDA162007/2 R3B01
Again, im a happy p990i user.
I remember my first day with my p990i:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=108358&start=4950
[ This Message was edited by: antz88c on 2006-10-15 11:27 ]
Posted by xerx
im also a very satisfied P990i user. been always a p series user since P800 harharharharhar
Posted by adnhk1
Oops Jah, apologies, forgot to mention, I never use backup/restore for all my 4 generations of P series phones. Never trusted this feature for fear of it restoring some old sytem files and replaces the new ones. Hence for the past 4 years, all firmware upgrades for me means manual installation of all my applications, and manual restore of my contacts, calendar, jotter, etc.
edit: I am still hopeful that SE will eventually release a firmware that fixes these issues that some of us are facing currently. Else I really have to find a way to get my P990i replaced with a newer batch one to test it out, but that would be near impossible in my country
[ This Message was edited by: adnhk1 on 2006-10-15 13:39 ]
Posted by tankee531
a question to all who felt that P990 had met their expectation:
Are you using any form of push mail, in particular Blackberry connect?
Posted by Gabster
I know this is not the right forum, but just like adnhk1 i am experiancing the call log problem as well...latest firmware...if i remember correctly my p990 was the same batch as your Jah e.g. bought it at the same place....initlaly i thought the problem with the call log was that it did not add the number until the other person answered the phone, however this has been disproved since i have had 5-10mins conversations with people and still the number does not get added to the call log...
Posted by Jah
@ Gabster and adnhk1
I discovered with M600 that settings and other data are not deleted when you flash so I also do a Master Reset as well.
Posted by adrusa
No, p990 was a disaster, a waste of money.
Posted by mode
Coming from a feature phone (S700), I felt that it met my expectation if not exceeded it. I was even aware that the phone might be unstable out of the box but I was one of the lucky ones I guess and had minimal problems as the phone did almost everything it was supposed to do. The phone became stable with R6D23, a fw before the last one, But it still didn't do what was supposed to be it's biggest selling point-Multitask. That was why it got gunned down so badly as compared to P9xx and below. And to add insult to the injury, the RAM leaked like a shower in a hot summer's day, a lot and fast! I was happy with the phone because it gave me real and practical day to day solutions so didn't mind the delayed responsiveness. But after 2 years, it's starting to get to me, and X1 isn't giving me the Wow effect P990 gave me when it was announced. I have to disagree with hghautam when he said the specs were not up to scratch when it was actually quite advanced and the best specced phone at the time it was announced as opposed to X1 which is nothing to shout about at all. All in all, I think the project leader for 1st gen UIQ3 was a complete idiot for single handedly destroying SE's long standing good reputation with TS smartphones, simply by speccing in 64mb RAM which was obviously a big, big mistake that could've been avoided.
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[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2008-10-10 08:13 ]
Posted by iksplusipsilon
Well...I am on my second P990 now
... Had first one for two years, but decided to sell it after Jog Dial went berserk and the scratches became too visible. Was thinking about G900 for a while, but I am just sooo hoked on GDesk + SMP + qwerty + fairly big screen + Jog Dial, I could not make the change yet. Currently, I see no device that would completely be able to replace it, in spite of its shortcomings. ( P1's design didn't appeal to me...)
First year with it was hard though, I don't think it would have sticked with me if it was my main phone for calls - have a dumb phone for that. 128 MB of RAM to begin with, could have made it almost perfect