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Posted by PRAE
Hello Hello all here at ESATO.

I've read through much of the massive M600i thread here which details much of every aspect of this great phone. I've just had mine for 5 days now and I'm noticing an unusually quick battery drain.

I've seen people comment on how GREAT the battery life is for this phone;
others have said that the battery needs to be TRAINED ?

Also, I've read that whether one uses this phone in 2G or 3G makes a difference.

MY QUESTION TO EVERYONE IS HOW CAN I GET THE BEST BATTERY LIFE out of this phone ? ? ?

Right now I get a day or less of usage. Not at all acceptable.
This is normal usage / I don't even use the Media Player or WEB that much . . .


I AM ON T-MOBILE US / with a TZONES plan.

I would like to know how I could switch between 2G and 3G to conserve battery life ? ? ?

AND what kind of battery life are you all getting out of your M600i ?
and what settings are you using ?

THANKS IN ADVANCE

BEST REGARDS

lex


Posted by Vexii
Calls = 1h

Bluetooth = 1h

Calendar, etc = 2h

SMS, email = 30min

1 day max is my battery life.

Posted by BobaFett
best way is to charge the batt in off mode, u could also fully drain the battery in every second month once

Posted by PRAE
That ONE DAY Battery life is HORRIBLE . . .

I've read in these forums of people getting 3 days of use out of one full charge.

I am in the US . and I am using a converter with the charger / I'm wondering
if that would make a difference ? ? ? But I suppose many other users are in the same situation . . .

ALSO, any word on how to turn of 3G ? I've read that helps . . .

THIS PHONE HAS TO HAVE BETTER BATTERY LIFE THAN JUST ONE DAY'S USE .

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SECOND Q.

I am charging the phone in OFF mode, but why does the backlight stay on,
although dimmed ? ? ? seems absolutely pointless and wasteful, i feel like it's going to kill my backlight in a year . . . yikes .

.

thanks again everyone . i hope i can get some definitive answers and advice from this .

Posted by BobaFett
that the back light is constantly turned on, sounds like a fw bug

Posted by PRAE
Well, I'm running the newest FW, as I flashed my phone 4 days ago when i got it. ALSO I've read a post up on here from a few weeks ago with someone complaining about the same issue / the backlight is VERY DIM . but it is on . . .

That's when it is charging whilst turned OFF . . .

Any word on the BATTERY LIFE Stuff ?

Posted by PRAE
Here's some of the links I've been referring to . Seems to be the Battery Life Duration is all over place / I hear both good and bad reports . . .

ANY ADVICE ?

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=127659

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=128273

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=127635

_ this one talks about the phone charging OFF / with backlight ON

Posted by Jah
@PRAE

1. we all use our M600 in different ways
2. Not all batteries are the same, depends on how you look after them (I don't use USB charging from a laptop)
3. I have 85%+ 3G coverage therefore this impact battery life
4. Buy an additional battery

I typical get a days use with 30/40% charge left at the end of the day:

- BT on 12hrs
- 3G coverage
- 30 mins of web browsing
- 15/20 mins of PIM
- 15/20 mins of music over BT
- 15 mins of calls


Posted by PRAE
Thanks Jah,

I appreciate your contribution, and you're right : we all do use this device differently. I'm just taken aback by the lack of battery life because i basically only use this for CALLS + TEXT Messaging . I rarely use emails as I haven't yet figured out how to do so. And I never use any of the media functions.

I did buy an extra battery, but it can't be charged independently so it becomes something of a pain to juggle both charging cycles.

I'm just wondering about those who are reporting longer battery life than just one day of use. I've never had a phone with that little battery life.

ANY WORD ON WHY 3G or 2G coverage makes a difference ?

Also how would i go about switching 3G off to conserve power ?
What else could one do to extend the battery life ?

I read somewhere about BATTERY LIFE EXTENDERS offered by
O2 and VODAFONE in the UK, but i don't know much about those . . .

THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE . .

best .

lex

Posted by 701
Actually,I guess it's pretty normal to have a day of dtand by after only 4-5 charges.It'll do better after 10 charges.On the light issue,if u go to Control Panel,Device and on Handheld u put it on auto,ur light wonlt stay on.

This message was posted from a WAP device

Posted by Bambino
I think its normal for a device with large screen couped with only 900mah battrey. so I guess SE should launch a big capacity batt.

This message was posted from a M600i

Posted by Jah
@PRAE

GSM/3G

Tool>Control Panel>Connections>Mobile Networks>More>GSM/3G Networks

Choose 'GSM only'

Posted by PRAE
SO As Time goes by, and I charge it up fully i should notice an improvement on standby time ? ? ?

I certainly hope that that is the case.

Is there really any hope that SONY would come out with a larger capacity battery for this phone? I thought that was not possible.

ALSO . thanks JAH . I'm switching to GSM only to see if that makes a difference .

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This T-mobile TZONES 'ish is killing me as I can't seem to get neither my 4Smartphone.net account / nor any chat clients to work. I feel like its something to do with the GPRS WAP service that Tzones offers . . .
yikes. that's off the topic. sorry about that .

I'll see what happens today with the battery life.

Thanks again all .


Posted by PRAE
WELL NOW THIS IS RIDICULOUS / / /

I've been charging the phone for 8 hours, while the phone was turned OFF.
I turn it one to find it displaying a 42% charge. W T F ? ? ?

Could this just be a defective battery or is there something else at play .
Like I said, I've already updated the firmware to R4 or whatnot . . .

How can I calibrate this battery ?

thanks again everyone .

Posted by adhussain
@Prae,

I use a GSM network and use the phone primarily for texting and phone calls but i do check emails & RSS quite a bit through GPRS. My battery typically lasts for two days on a full charge

[ This Message was edited by: adhussain on 2006-09-05 07:12 ]

Posted by tranxene
mine too, my battery drains so fast... i think they should make a more powerful battery for heavy users like me to fully utilize my phone.. waaahhh!!


Posted by 701
Well, I get the same battery stand-by of one day but with heavy usage. I mean, what do you expect with the phone constantly on making calls and browsing internet, reading mails and connecting to the BT headset?!
I am pleased with its performance while I admit it's not nice to discharge at 19.00, I can always plug it in the car charger for some extra-juice.

Posted by sapporobaby
@Prae,

You seem to be able to read on the Internet about different techniques to manage battery life but you can spend the time to read the manual to turn off 3G?

Your battery is defective it seems. Take it back and have them test it.

Posted by 701
I don't think the battery is defective, just a lot of usage or poorer signal coverage...
And, yes, 3G, eats up a lot of battery power, so if you want, don't use it but then your internet connection will be MUCH slower.

Posted by Dogmann
Hi prae,
If you are using R4 you definitely need to update your firmware as it is now on R9. Although i have only had my phone for 3 days i am experiencing none of the problems you mention and am on 3G always which uses more power than GSM.
Just a couple of questions when you got your phone how long did you charge it for prior to using it?
Are you charging it via USB or the mains?

I would suggest letting the battery get as low as possible and then leaving it on charge over night with the phone switched off and definitely upgrade to the latest firmware hope that helps.
Marc

Posted by sapporobaby
@701

You could have a point but if he can get to an SE service center, why not to let them check the battery. The battery could be okay but not the charging circuit in the phone. Typically I get 2 days but I have BT active all the time, RSS is updating every 2 hours, Worldmate udating every 4 hours, and Active Sync going out over the net via GPRS to sync my data. I did however turn off 3G considering the basic data applications that I am utilizing.

Posted by amr999
PRAE

Try turning off hand writing by placing input on keyboard. This really helped me in increasing battery duration.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-26 10:17:01, amr999 wrote:
PRAE

Try turning off hand writing by placing input on keyboard. This really helped me in increasing battery duration.



Nice one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Dispater
Quote:

ANY WORD ON WHY 3G or 2G coverage makes a difference ?




Because 3G/UMTS and GSM/GPRS are in effect 2 (or three) different networks, so the phone has to connect to a whole host of different receivers to be able to talk to all networks.
Effectively you're using twice the number of antennae and twice the power to operate twice the number of connections.


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