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dngeorgiev
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Posted: 2008-11-10 10:16
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Please share what music format and bitrate do you use on your phone?

I am using mp3 with various bitrates but i plan to convert some of the music for my w950.

Thanks!
NightBlade
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Posted: 2008-11-10 10:23
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Well, I use mp3 almost exclusively and with a bitrate no lower than 192kb/s.
dngeorgiev
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Posted: 2008-11-10 10:42
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thank you, but i need to get the optimal combination of low diskspace usage and quality, i have 400 songs that would permanently stay on my phone, so i need to convert them.

thanks!

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groovepeppy
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Posted: 2008-11-10 10:58
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256kbps of mp3 is good if you have the space but if you got more space then i recommend 320kbps...
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dngeorgiev
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Posted: 2008-11-10 11:16
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well i was looking for something like the best 128 kbps music format aac or wma
Dogmann
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Posted: 2008-11-10 12:35
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Hi all,

Using low bit rates really is a false economy as whilst you may be able to get more Music on your memory card it will at the price of quality. Lower bit rates quite simply mean more information is stripped out of the original track and your device has less information to re produce it from this really is not good for a quality listening experience IMO and that of many others.

Especially as large memory cards are really not that expensive anymore i prefer to maybe carry less but have it in a very good quality. Listening to poor quality Music really is a waste of time and you may as well not bother as it is not a good experience.

Personally all my Music is converted from CD's to 256kbps AAC and i use Shure EC2g ear phones my current device is a BB Bold and it produces a really great sound as good if not better than my now sold iPod 5.5 Gen.

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dngeorgiev
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Posted: 2008-11-10 13:05
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On 2008-11-10 12:35:43, Dogmann wrote:
Hi all,

Using low bit rates really is a false economy as whilst you may be able to get more Music on your memory card it will at the price of quality. Lower bit rates quite simply mean more information is stripped out of the original track and your device has less information to re produce it from this really is not good for a quality listening experience IMO and that of many others.

Especially as large memory cards are really not that expensive anymore i prefer to maybe carry less but have it in a very good quality. Listening to poor quality Music really is a waste of time and you may as well not bother as it is not a good experience.

Personally all my Music is converted from CD's to 256kbps AAC and i use Shure EC2g ear phones my current device is a BB Bold and it produces a really great sound as good if not better than my now sold iPod 5.5 Gen.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-11-10 11:35 ]


Hi,

Thanks for the response.

I use w950i and as you know it has built-in 4gb memory, but the sound quality of the earphones of the SE are really really poor so I should consider buying new ones, and as far as i have tested mp3 with 320 bittrate does not differ from wma @ 128 on the stoch headphones.
gforce23
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Posted: 2008-11-10 14:44
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Get a new pair of earphones/headphones. My $10 Koss clip-ons sound better than the bundled set of phones.
As Marc said, it's a question of quality vs quantity. I haven't stored any songs in AAC (partially because my entire collection is in 320kbps MP3) but AFAIK, 192kbps is the bare minimum rate for MP3s for an acceptable listening experience. You can't really tell the difference between 192kbps and 320kbps unless you have a wax-free pair of ears or happen to be using a very good set of earphones (Shures, AKGs, Sennheisers etc.). But it wouldn't take a music lover to tell the difference between 128kbps and 192kbps.

Over 90% of the songs on my P1i are encoded in either 192kbps or 320kbps.

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Dogmann
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Posted: 2008-11-10 19:39
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@dngeorgiev

Really the first thing to do with any device is dump the supplied headphones as in general they are adequate at best. The better the ear/headphones are the better your Music will sound this makes the most difference IMO along with using higher bit rates and is a worth while investment as a good set should last you many years. Hunt around and you will be surprised at how inexpensive some great ear/headphones are.

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StevenC
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Posted: 2008-11-10 23:05
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I always use the latest MP3 LAME (now v3.98.2) to compress my music files into CBR 96Kbps (160kbps at times). Either it is for my mp3 player or my phone. It is the best settings for quality/size. I don't compress into VBR because it drains the battery.




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Bialynia
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Posted: 2008-11-11 00:04
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I used to listen to songs at 64kbps or 96kbps in ogg format on the p800i so I could get as many songs on as possible :0 The audio was acceptable, and with 3 or 4 128mb Pro Duo cards (the largest the p800i could handle) I had myself a nice music collection on the go. I think 128kbps is certainly acceptable unless you're an audiophile who thinks he's missing some dynamic ranges.
carkitter
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Posted: 2008-11-11 06:18
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Back in my 41MB K700i days I encoded my music using CD EX 1.5.1 in MP3 format at 80 kbps. That sounded average but I could get 8 - 10 songs on board so I was happy!

My V630i played the same tracks back with slightly better sound quality but the (A200) V640i played them back exceptionally well, detailed and full with okay bass levels (megabass built in).

I now use iTunes to encode at 128 kbps AAC which sounds good on my 8GB iPhone 3G but even better on my V640i which is now sporting a 8GB M2 card.
I use the OEM headphones (V640i's are better than iPhone's) and am quite happy with them.

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Posted: 2008-11-11 06:27
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ATRAC3 is supposed to be good. Too bad most phones don't support it
blackspot
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Posted: 2008-11-11 06:34
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mp3 at 128kbps joint stereo is the most optimized setting for me. Of course higher bitrates are always better depending on the sensitivity of your ears and the quality of the headphones you are using but personally, i think anything above 192kbps is an overkill.

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Posted: 2008-11-11 06:46
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Mp3-no less than 128kbps
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