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alexlt
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Posted: 2005-07-28 01:49
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Well i think that too, Carl Zeis lens are better and not just for the name. Compare the zoom function in both phones, which is higher??? and it only can be achieved if it uses glass lens not plastic ones like in K750.
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Posted: 2005-07-28 01:51
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Correct me if im wrong, but neither phone has optical zoom.

Therefore (again, feel free to correct me if im wrong..) any digital zooming that is done, is done purely by the phones software and not because the lens is of different quality..

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Posted: 2005-07-28 01:56
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You are correct when you say that the N90 has a Carl Ziess lans but only has didtal zoom not optical zoom. Its digital zoom of 20x will make the picstures really bad when fully zoomed.
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alexlt
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Posted: 2005-07-28 01:59
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Yes i'm sorry, you're right, but i must insist (correct me if i'm wrong) N series uses glass optics by Carl Zeiss over a plastic lens of K750. Don't misunderstand me, i choose K750 over N series but you can't compare them.
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Posted: 2005-07-28 02:01
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In korea and in japan i think they are phone with optical zoom like samsung v770 and i think the new sharp are this zoom
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alexlt
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Posted: 2005-07-28 02:11
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On 2005-07-28 01:56:15, jcwhite_uk wrote:
Its digital zoom of 20x will make the picstures really bad when fully zoomed.




Pictures yes, but in video mode will be very useful, it won't be 20x only 8x, but there is a great difference with 4x zoom in K750
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Posted: 2005-07-28 02:32
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On 2005-07-28 01:59:26, alexlt wrote:
N series uses glass optics by Carl Zeiss over a plastic lens of K750.



I dont understand, how does glass automatically be preferred to plastic ?

Surely the specimen picture quality matters most - talking about plastic or glass sounds like nit-picking to me.

I dont care if my K750i is made of wood and straw, as long as it takes the best pictures im happpy. I dont like worrying about components too much, its the same as the CCD vs CMOS debate. Pointless.
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Posted: 2005-07-28 02:55
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boring, the cam one will break.
the music one is actually going to look cheap and ugly (seen it from the back yet?)
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Posted: 2005-07-28 04:55
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@etaab,
I just checked out the V-Rally, I don't know whether it's the same you are talking about! But to have a background image and a car(s) rendered on top of it made out of a series of images (not rendered in real time) and keep track of time and other stuff; I don't think there's much need of a processing power! (Of course there are some additional details!). But true enough it's more complex than the super real tennis! It keeps track of lots of things!

But you seems to be misunderstood the the difference about the graphic processing and math processing! To have a simple rotating BOX rendered (with images on the surface) you'll have to render 2 traingle for each side! and to reander a triangle you'll have to give details in a 3 by 3 matrix. (depends on the situation). And the JVM will have to render each of it! It's like (for a single triangle) doing a math calculation with atleast O(2) notation! So do i have to explain how much processing power will be needed for just to render a character in super real tennis! and to animate it?

But i don't know whether the all that needs a 400MHz processor, I just pointed out what I went through! But it could be possible that it need such a processor because it doesn't have rich resources as the P910 smartphones! so in order to get the maximum out of what it has it'll have to have a much greater processor! I think you got my point! It's like 64bit 1.5 GHz processor vs 2.5GHz 32bit processor!

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Posted: 2005-07-28 05:27
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I just got some pictures of the N90, It looks kool with the 90 degree ratating screen though it's a BRICK. But the 5 way navigation key seems not good! (I haven't found a comferting joystick as SE in any NOKIA phone!) I haven't tried it though!

In http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n90-1155.php it says that it doesn't have vibration! If that's so I guess N90 users will be in serious trouble coz NOKIA phones make loud (sometimes ugly) noises. I wonder why they remove that function. No point of-

In N91 they have reduces the screen resolution for 176 x 208 pixels, I wonder why? And even with a 900mAh battery it has a talk time of 4h. (N90 is having 4h 30 min with a 760mAh battery.) No card slot, but included vibration.

To me NOKIA seems to be confused about their productions. Or is it that the N90 hasn't gained a good market?


And there are some bad user reviews abt the N90 like these- (check it out)


I dun think I wan this phone anymore. Nokia is disappointing. Delay fr EndJune to 15July to 23July. If its released at S$1388, as the stated price I wunnt wan as its way overpriced. It was noted tt it will cost ard $1315 den drop to ard $1163-$1213 a...



The most ugly and the most stupid fone ever from nokia....


Not sounds too good!

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etaab
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Posted: 2005-07-28 11:56
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On 2005-07-28 04:55:25, Naith wrote:

@etaab,
I just checked out the V-Rally, I don't know whether it's the same you are talking about! But to have a background image and a car..

blah blah blah blah blah !




No, thats not the V-Rally im talking about. This is:

http://my-symbian.com/uiq/app[....]ications.php?fldAuto=513&faq=3

Its the Playstation conversion of the same game, which runs on the 156mhz P900. It is far more complex and has a much higher polygon count than Super Tennis.

You can go on all day about the K700i needing a 400mhz CPU, but it simply does not have one. I cannot even be bothered to find a spec sheet for the K700i to prove this to be so, because im quickly becoming bored of this conversation.
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Naith
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Posted: 2005-07-29 03:42
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@etaab,

Sure man,
Everything happens for a reason

Anyway ThanKx for all the iNFO,

Enjoy.../
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Posted: 2005-07-29 08:40
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Ok all we have to do now is wait

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etaab
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Posted: 2005-07-29 10:27
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On 2005-07-29 03:42:27, Naith wrote:

@etaab,

Sure man,
Everything happens for a reason

Anyway ThanKx for all the iNFO,

Enjoy.../




Im not sure what you mean by that (you're still convinced the K700i has a higher spec CPU than all smartphones.. ? ) but, you're welcome.
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Posted: 2005-07-29 10:30
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apart from the 8800, what nokia actually looks as nice as the pre-released photos??? [addsig]
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