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the nokia Nseries (so whats the sonyericsson's answer to these phones?) |
mib1800
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On 2005-07-20 10:43:20, Paulino2 wrote:
Yes that could surely be it but I don't understand why they use the 760mAh BL-5B in N90 they could atleast use the 900mAh BL-5C but of course there is the space issue and all Nokia clamshells seem to have the BL-5B battery but as the size of the N90 is so big already it would just make a small difference.
[ This Message was edited by: Paulino2 on 2005-07-20 09:45 ]
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A guess is that Nokia may have made improvement to Series60 OS which is more power efficient. From personal experience, based on moderate usage:-
6600 - 900mAH - 104Mhz - 2.5days
6670 - 900mAH - 123Mhz - 4 days
6630 - 900mAH - 220Mhz - 2.5 days (3G not active)
6681 - 900mAH - 220Mhz - 3.5 days
With each Series60 product cycle, quite a big improvement has been made in battery life. Maybe 760mAH can provide the same battery life as the current Series 60 (6680/1).
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etaab
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On 2005-07-21 08:31:06, Prom1 wrote:
If firmware is buggy then you can format & restore from backup and your sorted! Can you do this with a Moto Razr or k750i?
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Well, where the K750i is concerned you can copy everything (pictures, sounds, themes, apps..) to the memory stick if you want, all except SMS and appointments etc. 
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Naith
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On 2005-07-21 11:22:24, etaab wrote:
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On 2005-07-21 08:31:06, Prom1 wrote:
If firmware is buggy then you can format & restore from backup and your sorted! Can you do this with a Moto Razr or k750i?
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Well, where the K750i is concerned you can copy everything (pictures, sounds, themes, apps..) to the memory stick if you want, all except SMS and appointments etc.
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Use a software like FMA, you'll be able to take backups of almost everything in SE K750i and most of the other SE phones!
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But you need to be at a computer with the software installed to do that.
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Naith
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On 2005-07-20 09:55:00, Paulino2 wrote:
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Well you surely has not been reading on about the N90.
-It does not have 5 GB of storage it uses DV RS-MMC cards limited up to 512 MB today.
-You cannot compare a Symbian and a Non-symbian software wise with symbian being much more complex.
-SE K700 dont have a 400 Mhz processor and the N90 will have a 220 Mhz processor just as 6630 and 6680. Nokia being a bigger company and having greater resources then SE why shouldn't they afford it if they wanted to? And surely N90 could use some extra processing power so beats me why they didn't upgrade to a faster one.
-Of course they release new FW but the downside is you can't update to new FW yourself as with SE phones.
-The N90 display is probably one of the best today and surely it outperforms the K750 by miles it has 352 x 416 resolution.
Youre right about the batterylife though its poor on the N90 compared to K750 but it is a 3G phone and I guess it needs a lot of juice to keep that big display running  . Stand-by Up to 240 h, Talk time Up to 4 h 30 min. Please check your facts before posting.
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First thing, I do really have made a mistake considering some NOKIA (may be N91) with N90. I'm really sorry for that!
But who says that SE K700i doesn't have a 400MHz processor? I'm a J2ME developer and while I was reading a SE white paper I came across that it has a 400MHz processor- If doesn't have such a processing power I dought how it is able to render those 3D graphics at real time speed! For an example like the graphics in the Super Real Tennis! (I'm really trying to find that white paper again so I'll be able to confirm that information)
By the way I never knew that N90 was a 3G phone! But ppl still compare it with a NON 3G SE K750i, what does it proove? SE NON 3G phones can compete with even 3G NOKIA phones, isn't it?
NOKIA may be a bigger company, I don't know anything about that! What I know is it's an OLD COMPANY. They have been in the business from the beginning! But still they have some serious problems with their products! With the radiation levels to be precise. I am really in a tight position where I cannot give out any details about this. I wish some one would do that for me!
Enjoy .../
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U no the 6280 has got the edge even no the N-series. The N91 is cool, but big and heavy! 6280 has less storage but is 3G slide design, small & light with 2MP cam. So whats so special about the N-series? Cheers
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Cenfi
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Yep u right. and it expensive too! and it's model changes too fast. late model becomes old in such short times. in other words nokia forces ppl to update its phone evently.
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etaab
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Naith, the Nokia N-gage only has a 104mhz CPU, and it renders better, more complex 3D graphics than the K700i quite easily. Even the mighty P series of phones can handle games like V-Rally with their slow 156mhz cpu's.
Are you sure you are a software developer ? after all its not the speed of the CPU that matters the most, but how many calculations it can process through bandwith. I would have thought a software developer would know such information.
I do agree with you though, that the N90 should not be compared with the K750i, other than on camera quality - of which the K750i wins hands down. 
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Naith
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@etaab,
Ya man, now you are talking! It's all about the capability which is measured in flops/s. But in a mobile phones, i don't know what are the ranges. Normally for PCs it is measured in MFlops/s. But I think in mobiles it is highly dependent on the speed coz it doesn't have other rich resources like higher RAM/VRAM etc. Didn't actually did a research on that so, anyone out there having information? I'd really like to have my Java 3D apps running on on other models with the same speed as K700!
What V-Rally are you talking about? I only have played a simple V-Rally which can be played even on a T290? It's not very rich in graphics but the game is pretty good! Is that V-Rally you are talking about is better than that? If so, would you mind telling me where I could download that?
Enjoy.../
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etaab
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I'm talking about the actual Playstation conversion of V-Rally for the P series, which runs perfect to say the P900 has such a slow CPU.
Super Tennis on the K700i is far far far less complex and more basic (and slower to play) than V-Rally.
But thats all irrelevant. The point im making is, is that the K700i does not have a 400mhz cpu because its simply not needed. Its not even a smartphone.
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Col_M
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why compare a 3G smartphone to the k750i and w800? they blatently aren't 3G smartphones and don't claim to be.
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Yes, i agree you can't compare a smartphone with a simple phone, 3g vs 2g, Nokia vs  just joking
i think the answer from Sony Ericsson will be Hermione (p1000?), but i'm almost sure it will beat N series from Nokia
Jus my opinion
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etaab
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SE tend to hold back with things like camera quality in their smartphones however.
Even when the P1000 does come out, i fear the camera might only be as good as the Z800i.
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I think, Nokia N-series are placed in a different segment to K750i/W800i.
N90 is a good phone, better lens, better macro compared to the K750i. Don't forget also that it records video at twice larger size than K750i, and 4 times larger in bit-rate. And its display, though haven't seen it yet, i can say that it'll be the best one in the market. It even maybe better than S700i's.
This what happens in N91, too. Though the 2MP still-images are crap, it records video very well. N91, it has wi-fi, too.
The products are truly in a higher function than K750i/W800i.
But however, K750i/W800i offers some advantages such as more compact design, much lower price, better mp3 player (i guess) which are for some people will be great expectations.
So say wise, it's not truly a "bye-bye" for K750i/W800i. As for me, I don't need wi-fi, 4GB of hdd of N91; nor a big bulky design of N90; nor their very high prices, so I am sure to better pick K750i/W800i than those N-series.
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etaab
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On 2005-07-27 22:33:11, Amras wrote:
N90 is a good phone, better lens |
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How on earth do you know this ? simply because it has the Carl Zeiss label ? 
You'e just proved my point that clever branding and marketing cloud peoples judgement. Since the phone isnt actually out yet, and i assume you havent examined the lens, how else did you come to this decision ?
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Posted: 2005-07-21 10:00
t610, k300, k700, p910 & w800 
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