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n3x
Joined: Jun 15, 2005
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Ah ok firefreak let me know any good settings you come up with, i need some decent quality videos to watch at work in fullscreen! |
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Arne Anka
Joined: Nov 05, 2003
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Shouldn't you be working at work instead of watching movies ?
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n3x
Joined: Jun 15, 2005
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I multitask  cmon its a boring job!
I tried Recode last night and to be honest i dont like it abit! Its stable and well laid out but it lacks changable settings... i cant seem to change to mono sound? u cant set the frame rate? Im sure there were more but those 2 are pretty important as the phone cant handle high bitrates with 25fps and 15fps looks pony! and when encoding an episode of family guy or the simpsons do i really need stereo sound? its just a waste of space but i cant change it with nero... im goin back to mpegable. found some good settings last night for full screen so im happy  |
Firefreak
Joined: Jul 02, 2004
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On 2005-06-23 09:06:37, n3x wrote:
I multitask cmon its a boring job!
I tried Recode last night and to be honest i dont like it abit! Its stable and well laid out but it lacks changable settings... i cant seem to change to mono sound? u cant set the frame rate? Im sure there were more but those 2 are pretty important as the phone cant handle high bitrates with 25fps and 15fps looks pony! and when encoding an episode of family guy or the simpsons do i really need stereo sound? its just a waste of space but i cant change it with nero... im goin back to mpegable. found some good settings last night for full screen so im happy
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Use the ImToo MPEG Encoder... and register (read crack) it... you can change pretty much every setting you could possibly need...
The settings I use to encode video to my K750i...
http://www.algonet.se/~mcstream/settings.JPG
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n3x
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Yeah ive got imtoo aswell but i think mpegable is just easier to use especially when u need to crop a video to fill the mobiles screen! I'm stickin with mpegable
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Firefreak
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On 2005-06-23 09:45:53, n3x wrote:
Yeah ive got imtoo aswell but i think mpegable is just easier to use especially when u need to crop a video to fill the mobiles screen! I'm stickin with mpegable
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You've got crop and pad options in ImTOO too...
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n3x
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true but u cant see the results until uve encoded the video!
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Firefreak
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On 2005-06-23 13:55:37, n3x wrote:
true but u cant see the results until uve encoded the video!
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Which takes like a minute... or two tops...
I'll give mpegable a shot too I guess...
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n3x
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not if ur encoding a film
give it a go, its my prefered choice out of all the ones ive found so far.
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Firefreak
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During a short period I now have the PS3 Killzone trailer encoded in the same high quality if anyone is interested...
http://www.algonet.se/~mcstream/killzone.mp4
192kbit/s video and 128kbit/s 44khz stereo audio...
Update: Just noted that audiosync is slightly off... I'll be correcting it shortly...
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jriff
Joined: Jun 14, 2005
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FireFreak> I just tried your settings and they work great - just a couple of questions:
- What does bitrate_tolerance do?
- Why not two passes? Won't that increase quality and reduce filesize?
- What to do if I ave a clip with an acpect ratio of 2.35? (640x272)?
- It looks like ImToo cuts away the black bars automatically?
- Can the k750i show video in a higher resolution than 176x144 if video is played in full-screen?
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numb
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On 2005-06-23 16:47:13, jriff wrote:
FireFreak> I just tried your settings and they work great - just a couple of questions:
- What does bitrate_tolerance do?
- Why not two passes? Won't that increase quality and reduce filesize?
- What to do if I ave a clip with an acpect ratio of 2.35? (640x272)?
- It looks like ImToo cuts away the black bars automatically?
- Can the k750i show video in a higher resolution than 176x144 if video is played in full-screen?
Regards, Jacob - Denmark
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- yes, two passes would increase quality, firefreak is just lazy 
- either crop it to a more suitable aspect ratio fitting the screen, or just leave it at aspect ratio 2.35, it will keep aspect ratio on the phone.
- No, max resolution is 176x144, full-screen just scale it to fill the screen, but the clip has to be encoded following the correct 3gp standards, which is max 176x144.
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jriff
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- yes, two passes would increase quality, firefreak is just lazy
- either crop it to a more suitable aspect ratio fitting the screen, or just leave it at aspect ratio 2.35, it will keep aspect ratio on the phone.
- No, max resolution is 176x144, full-screen just scale it to fill the screen, but the clip has to be encoded following the correct 3gp standards, which is max 176x144.
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- Two passes: I just tried it - can't get it to work - anyone know how to do it in ImToo?
- Crop it: Well - i tried padding 20px top and bottom - I thourgt that it would squeeze the clip a bit since everything seems to be stretched a bit, however that made the clip unplayable on the phone - all I saw was a red box?! Also I have no black bars as I do with the original clip. It seems that ImToo has cut them away. This means that aspect ratio isn't preserved.
- Damn about 176x144 - it would be soo nice if the clip could fill the whole screen. As I recall the screen is 176x220px? Then the phone actually reduces the size of the clip from 176x144? Why not encode the clip in the size the phone can actually display?
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numb
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Dont use IMtoo myself (I still beleive I get better results using freeware tools or nero recode), cant help specifically with IMtoo.
But
No, the phone does not reduce the size. The phones upscales from the 176x144 pixels which the clips is encoded in, to fill the screen of 176x220 when full screen is selected.
No, you cannot encode the clip in 176x220, it has nothing to do with the phone, but simple encoding rules. Just like a dvd has some rules to which resolutions can be used, so does the 3gp standard. And the rules of the 3gp standard says it has to be 176x144.
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By the way FireFreak, you challenged me to prove it by providing a clip and you would encode it in IMtoo using the same settings to prove me wrong, I supplied the clip in a previous post, but you didnt supply a clip from IMtoo using the same settings, so how about it ??
http://rapidshare.de/files/2526665/MyBoo.mp4.html
140kbit/s video, 22050 HZ 16bit stereo 48kbits datarate audio, 15fps
filesize 5061 kByte
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n3x
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but isnt mp4 a completely different format to 3pg? and thus shouldnt the phone be able to play mp4 at its full res?
i tried 2 passes aswell and the phone doesnt seem to like it!
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