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Posted: 2005-05-12 20:57
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Ok, too bad
Hey anyone know ho a japanese keyboard looks like? 'Cause keyboards don't look the same in different countries.
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Posted: 2005-05-13 01:16
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I use a laptop with a japanese keyboard layout at home.

The main keys looks like this:


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Posted: 2005-05-13 03:26
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So peps, how is your hiragana? You should have learned it already if you wanted. Now lets learn the very basic grammatic. Here is example: kore[wa] pen [desu]. Kore means "this, thing that i have or holding" pen is pen :) but what are these [wa] and [des] (correctly desu, but last sound reduced) wa is thingy we put after word which we want to make theme of all the sentence, the hiragana sign however for only this "wa" writes like "ha". Desu is reduced verb "dearu" that means "to be". So we get translation "this [theme] pen [is]" on normal english it will be "this is pen". Got it or should i explain more?

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Posted: 2005-05-13 03:32
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Ohayo gozaimasu.

hai, sensei san.

kore wa hon desu [this book]
kore wa isu desu [this chair]
kore wa kompyuta [this computer]

(Classmates, try this online tutorial. )

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Posted: 2005-05-13 03:40
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Good. One more ting to you, you should not say sensei san, because sensei already makes sense. (^ยค^). Nice to hear that anyway.

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Posted: 2005-05-13 03:43
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Hai. Arigato.



Sensei anata wa nihonjin?

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Posted: 2005-05-13 04:09
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Just a little comment if Wazuki sensei don't mind,

When you address a person in authority or someone older than you, "anata" (you) will sound rude. Normally, the formal way of addressing a person is by calling his name or designation. In @Gowin's question for example:

Teacher, are you a Japanese?

should be:

Sensei wa Nihonjin desu ka?

edit: to elaborate
Sensei = Teacher
wa = indicates that the previous word is the subject
Nihonjin = Japanese person (jin = person)
desu = BE (verb) or in this case IS
ka = indicates that the sentence is a question.

I'm sure Wazuki sensei will explain this in his lessons.
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Posted: 2005-05-13 04:13
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sumimasen. domo.

I keep on fogetting about desu ka and "?"

Aren't we supposed to drop the "?" when we use desu ka when writing in romanji.

(I was told that I should forego learning japanese thru romanji and concentrate on kana instead)
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Posted: 2005-05-13 04:36
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No i m russian im only 17 and studying japanese for only 1.5 years :) but sure i can chat with japanese people just fine.

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Posted: 2005-05-13 04:37
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yup, you're right ka is already like the equivalent of a question mark (?). So a Japanese question (using Japanese characters) that ends in ka is terminated by a Japanese period.

I also think learning Japanese is more effective (and fun IMO) if you learn kana as well, romaji is just necessary to launch you to learning the language.
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Posted: 2005-05-13 06:32
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an acceptable, but probably less formal way of asking would be:

nihonjin desu ka [are you japanese?] - assumes you both know you're talking with each other.

or, if you don't want to assume anything

sensei wa nanjin desu ka [Teacher, what is your nationality]
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Posted: 2005-05-13 11:04
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Quote:

On 2005-05-13 01:16:40, GOwin wrote:
I use a laptop with a japanese keyboard layout at home.

The main keys looks like this:






Yeah. My keyboard is Japanese enabled as well. A lot easier than writing.
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Posted: 2005-05-13 11:09
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Yes, adding ka to the end of a sentence turns it into a question.

Doko ni ikimasu ka?

I say this to the Japanese tourists I see, which is quite often. I was told that if you do make an attempt to speak to Japanese tourists in there own language it is a nice gesture, one that is not forgotten easily.
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Posted: 2005-05-13 14:03
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i wanted to fix something.
It's not komputa its pccom (probably pronounced Pasacom)
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Posted: 2005-05-16 01:40
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