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whizkidd
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Posted: 2005-04-24 11:53
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Govi, can you explain?!!
T230 >> T610 >> Ngage QD >> N73 >> N85 >> Omnia HD >> And countless other review units
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Posted: 2005-04-24 12:27
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The Sony Ericsson T600- the smallest cell phone EVER released in the Western World; it was a little out-dated, but only about the size of a large lighter! The Sony Ericsson Z1010- Sony Ericsson's first 3G, initially the 3G phone with the longest battery times (it still holds this title in most countries); the ONLY cell phone in the Western World to feature long-range (100M) bluetooth! The Sony Ericsson Bluetooth Car CAR-100- need I say more?

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Posted: 2005-04-24 12:28
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EDIT:I think GC82 was first edge enabled PC card and that is innovative for me



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whizkidd
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Posted: 2005-04-24 12:34
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Are you sure about that psycho?
T230 >> T610 >> Ngage QD >> N73 >> N85 >> Omnia HD >> And countless other review units
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Posted: 2005-04-24 12:42
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The Sony Ericsson bluetooth-controlled camera, as featured in Esato's news section- again, I don't need to point out how this is innovative... The Sony Ericsson S700- the first cell phone in the Western World to feature a 1.3MP camera! The Sony Ericsson P910- the first cell phone to accept Memory Stick Pro Duo memory cards... The "Dual Fronts" design that is starting to appear in more and more phones was pioneered by Sony Ericsson...

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CybaCowboy
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Posted: 2005-04-24 13:25
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The Sony Ericsson F500/K500/K700- the first 3 phones to feature "3D" Java! The Sony Ericsson T610- STILL the cell phone with THE longest talk-time ANYWHERE in the world! The Sony Ericsson HBH-660 Bluetooth Headset- the first bluetooth headset to feature a caller ID display! I'm sure if I tried, I could come up with a few more too... Face it, you don't know what you're talking about.

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FutureDesign
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Posted: 2005-04-24 13:27
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How bout the fact they actually create full working phones :-P

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Yazan24
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Posted: 2005-04-24 13:46
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Heres responses, locate the one that is appropriate for you, haha,

1) If you read the previous posts I said when size is enhanced at the cost of functionality and features it isnt much of an innovation. (T600)

2) a- Talk time and standby time arent major features of concern.
b- T610 does not have the most standby time in the world. (T610)

3) The western world is not a good measure as they are behind on most cellphone technology. (Z1010)

4) S710a isnt the first edge enabled phone. (S710a)

5) The Menus SE have are based on the T68m, an ericsson. (All SE phones)

Please have strong evidence to back up your responses. Defending SE blindly is idiotic. We all love them, but we're not blind to their weaknesses.



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Posted: 2005-04-24 13:58
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Jeez its a bloody phone! Does it matter whether they come up with the first broadband internet on phone? No its the fact they make good phones!

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CybaCowboy
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Posted: 2005-04-24 14:26
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It seems to me that some of you have no clear idea of what "innovation" is, and no matter what everyone else suggests, it's never going to meet your "standard" of innovation!

I agree with what someone else said earlier- it seems you have a problem with the "Sony" part of Sony Ericsson...
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Yazan24
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Posted: 2005-04-24 15:31
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The person who said that was Referring to Bart, and Im sure bart like me, doesnt think they dont make a good team, its just that you would expect more, they provide quality products, but nothing that surprised everyone who wasnt a die hard SE fan, you may argue that the K750 and W800 are like that, but thats only because we love SE, if your a regular guy, theyre nothing out of the ordinary.

Now the T68 and P800 (both by ericsson) are phones which attracted the masses, this is where most of us were pulled in by SE.

If SE kept doing that like the path ericsson were on, we would see more innovative consumer attracting products.
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Posted: 2005-04-24 15:51
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i will not deny that SE makes the best phones, but imo it would've been better for ericsson if SE never saw the daylight.
the phones that SE lauched would've come on the market eventually, maby not the K700 but a better one, cause face it guys, after the T610 the K700 was a flop.
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Posted: 2005-04-24 17:12
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On 2005-04-23 23:43:06, bart wrote:
if SE would've never excisted, there would've never been a K750 or any others. but we would've had the RX1...



don't forget that without SE there wouldn't be an Ericsson anymore, the coop was the only chance for Ericsson to let their commercial phone department stay alive
bart
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Posted: 2005-04-24 17:27
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not really. a good restructering would've sloved it aswell. and don't forget that the last line of ericsson was doing fine.
T66 was making good profit cause some people wanted the smallest phone availeble
T65 nice looking, and stronger then the averdge phone
T68m do i need to say? most historicle phone ever made untill today

keep in mind that the first couple of Q's SE had less marketshare then ericsson, even now they've got less marketshare.
and don't say that SE is more profitable, cause during the first Q's SE made a big loss.
like i said if ericsson restructured there mobile phone section, then they would've made it and we would've seen far more intresting things.
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Yazan24
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Posted: 2005-04-24 17:55
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I love SE, but ericsson was a very good company that was on the right path, SE only added better aesthetics to the mix.

Oh I just remembered the Menu SE uses is based on the T68m menu which is an ericsson, so aesthetics is the only improvement.
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