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Sony Ericsson have not been innovative |
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Innovation?
what defines innovation?
The S700i had an innovative swivel design. The T610 became innovative and thus won an award. The V800 was innovative because it had a rotating 3g camera and 65k external colour screen. The W800i is innovative because it is the first official music playing phone. The Z200 was innovative because of its striking looks and external screen. The T630 was innovative because of its crystal clear screen. The Z600 was innovative because of its weird clamshell design.
Sony Ericsson are an innovative company. Ericsson were ASWELL.
The T68m is perhaps the only innovative phone they produced. Besides some bluetooth and GPRS mono phones.
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First – we don’t need innovations. And every one knows how hard it is to make money from innovation, take look at NEONODE. If you make high quality products with high end features like SE does and if you are always on the top of technology, you will have no problems. But if you are going to create something really innovative, you will have to spend a lot of money with no guarantee for reward. And I bet you know what happens with the company, which fails even once with their innovative something. |
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Is innovation a comparison?
Is innovation something never seen before?
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S700 inovation design? it excisted along time ago, and it wasn't really a big hit.
the T610 won the award for best cellphone, not for inovation
ericsson not innovative? good god, don't say such a think, you have no idea what ericsson build, you don't know how many unseen phones they had in the background.
ericsson had a phone for everbody, the only problem was that the phones were to advanced for there time.
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Second – what innovations are you talking about? What do you want to call it Innovation? A 3D mega super blaster microwave 4G phone with fuel cells?
Do you know what makes an Innovation an Innovation? When you have something that you could just dream about yesterday, that is an innovation. But when it comes to true it doesn’t look like something special, that’s the whole thing.
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innovation is something new, something special, something that works.
most of you will cal GPS build in a phone innovation. true, but its an old innovation, benfon made it years ago.
the T68m was the first colorscreen phone WITH build in bluetooth and so much more.
a T66 was very small and light, but that isn't innovation.
nokia communicator could be called innovation, but the idea came from an ericsson prototype developed before nokia's version.
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I dont believe anybody can define innovation which makes this thread vague.
SE produce nice phones but the argument will persist...some may call them innovative while some may call them a step up from existing products.
Innovation according to the dictionary definition is 'something new' Wasnt s7's ccd sensor new? Isnt k600's size for a 3g phone new? Wasnt 3d java gaming new? Isnt w800's claims of 15/30hrs of battery life new? Isnt a budget phone like j300 new? Arent se's designs new? Arent new phones new? |
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An Innovation is a radical design that implements new concepts into a fully working system.
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if SE would've never excisted, there would've never been a K750 or any others. but we would've had the RX1...
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RX1 was way ahead of its time... It's not too late to release such a device btw! (Of course, with a bit of refreshing )
bart, what's your problem with the Sony part of SE? You seem a bit bitter about them... I personnally believe the merging has lead to create a better company, combining amazing specs in a full and nice package, something Ericsson was not so good at...
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Aesthetics have improved, I cant deny that, the menu functionality as well, however no new SE innovative handsets have been introduced, the K750 is nothing special nor are the rest of SEs handsets.
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The S700i was very innovative when it was first announced. It stunned the mobile world with its 1.3mp camera. The only problem was that it took so long to actually release the phone that most of the other manufacturers had already released something that was as innovative by the time the S700i hit the shops.
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and hence it was old technology, not innovative technology, several phones beat it to the megapixel count, so it wasnt anything but an aesthetic advancement.
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u want inovation look at samsung, 1st satelite tv phone, 1st HDD phone, 1st 5MP-7MP camera phone, etc etc.... hehe i think SE isnt ready for all this big jump... they r slowly progressing...
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well that depends they have delivered quote nice products in near and are a quite good company. now, in cam phones, they are a generation ahead and so for useablility..... may be not INNOVATIVE, but definitely not UNINNOVATIVE
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