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scotsboyuk
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On 2005-01-05 15:31:41, Sammy_boy wrote:
... they can make themselves understood by speaking English DELIBERATELY SLOWLY AND LOUDLY 
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You forgot to mention pointing at things and then speaking about the person, one is attempting to communicate with, in the third person, with one's companions, whilst the person is present.
English is my mother tongue, but I can also read and write Latin, although there isn't much call to speak in Latin these days. I have a smattering of German too and I can offer the odd swear word in Italian should the occassion warrant it e.g. whilst driving in Italy.
"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC |
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blackspot
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@GOwin, I always thought that the language is referred to as Pilipino, while the people (nationality) are called Filipino. Yes, Tagalog is considered as one of the Philippine dialects and not considered the National language.
To answer to your question:
"Are you drunk or something, or are you normally this thick?"
I would understand this as another way of saying "You are so stupid".
I also have English as my second language after Pilipino, although most of the time I speak another Philippine dialect. I'm also studying Japanese, know a little Spanish and a few words (mostly greetings) in French, German, and Italian.
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GOwin
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@blackspot
that's what most older people think. but it really is the other way around. 
and thanks for your answer.
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keep the side comments to the minimum. i'd appreiciate that. and please answer:
what does "Are you drunk or something, or are you normally this thick?" mean to you?
i'd appreciate that more.
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On 2005-01-05 16:01:00, GOwin wrote:
@peterkay
I think it's an illusion.
@vlam
thanks for the input.
Let's just say I'm curious how English is being murdered. 
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Stay on topic and answer the question.
@jn
During our time, we had been taught in school that because of the 1987 constitution, "Pilipino" now pertains to the citizens of the Philippines while "Filipino" is the national language, which is largely based on Tagalog.
In the academe (or if one wants to be nationalistic), that's how it is but it is acceptable practice to use it the other way around.
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@gowin - I'll try to refresh my memory about my 1987 Philippine Constitution dude  That was quite some 'decades' ago . . . I just hope that, at the end, you'll make an input what does that phrase really means: "Are you drunk or something, or are you normally this thick" , as @blackspot got confused too  . . . I could have just easily understood it if you just have posted either of the two:
1. "Jojo, have you lost your marbles?"
2. "Jojo is a Fruit Cake ! "
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EastCoastStar
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hahah @peter... ich mochte auch ein tute bonbons! |
blackspot
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@JN, how did you come up with the idea that I was confused? @GOwin is merely asking what that means to us and that's how it meant to me. Being "thick" to me in that context means lacking in mental alertness or simply being stupid, much like what @GOwin mentioned in his first post.
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my english sucks |
*Jojo*
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@blackspot - Maybe because of this: as posted by @gowin . . .
@blackspot
that's what most older people think. but it really is the other way around.
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blackspot
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but that was about the language, not about the phrase.
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@blackspot - So, there are 2 issues back there mate: language and the phrase Oh boy, I better watch Ragnarok - instead . . . |
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@GOwin
The comment in question is basically insinuating that someone is stupid, as blackspot said. It is insinuating that the person the commented is directed towards has done something so stupid that they must either be a stupid person in general or that they have imbibded so much alcohol that it has dulled their wits. It is something of a double negative, in that it is labelling someone as stupid twice, almost like calling someone 'a stupid idiot'.
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@jn, losing marbles or being a fruit cake is not the same as being thick. Would it not be easier to say loony or psycho
If that is what's meant?
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GOwin
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@scotsboy, oh wow! Is that really so? Sounds sensationalized though.
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On 2005-01-06 06:06:45, GOwin wrote:
@jn, losing marbles or being a fruit cake is not the same as being thick. Would it not be easier to say loony or psycho
If that is what's meant?
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@gowin - My apologies here Mr. Moderator, but I am more 'used' to hearing 'these' 2, than that of "Are you drunk . . . - thick" . Yup, I hear/read the word - "psycho" at times too (one movie entitled like that . . .) About "loony" hmmmm . . . only "Looney" Tunes enters my mind here mate ! |
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Oh well. As far as the feedback from others is concerned, I am confident that "thick" as used in the sentence was used as it was meant or expected in English.
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Posted: 2005-01-05 17:30
