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p900 lover
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Posted: 2004-11-22 22:00
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just found the specs for my pc on the internet,
what di u guys think of it? any good? got it abput 1 year ego.


Microprocessor Full NameIntel® Pentium® 4 processor 3 GHz with

Hyper-Threading Technology (800 MHz FSB)Microprocessor Type

Pentium 4 HTL2 Cache (KB)512 Frontside Bus (MHz) 800

Memory Type DDR SDRAMMemory Speed (MHz)400Memory Size (MB)512

DVD±RW Drive YES
Floppy Disk Drive YES
Hard Drive Capacity
(GB)120Hard Drive Speed (rpm)7200Speed
CD-R Write24Speed
CD-ROM Read 32 Speed
CD-RW Read32Speed C
D-RW Write10Speed DVD+R Write4Speed
DVD+RW Write2.4Speed
DVD-R Write4Speed
DVD-ROM Read8Speed
DVD-RW Write2DVD-ROM
DriveYES


Graphics
Graphic Card Full NameNVIDIA® GeForce™ FX 5200 (VRAM 128 MB)ModelGeForce FX5200ProducerNVIDIARAM (MB)128
Multimedia
External SpeakersYESOutput Speakers 2x (W)3Speaker Depth (mm)158Speaker Height (mm)258Speaker Width (mm)98
Front Interfaces
4 Pin i.LINK™ (IEEE1394)1PCMCIA Slot1USB Port (quantity)3USB Port Type2Flash reader for MemoryStick, Smart Media, Micro Drive, Compact flash1
Rear Interfaces
6 Pin i.LINK™ (IEEE1394), 400 Mbps1Antenna in1DVI out1Headphone Jack1Line in1Microphone Jack1Parallel Port1PCI Card Slot1PS/2® Keyboard Connector1PS/2® Mouse Connector1RJ-11 Direct Port1RJ-45 Direct Port1S-Video out1USB Port Type2USB Port (quantity)4VGA out1Video/Audio in1DC out for Speakers1Optical out1SPDIF Port1
Keyboard
Function Keys12Programmable Power Keys6Standby ButtonYES
Modem
Built-in ModemV.90
Network
Ethernet 10 BASE-T/100 BASE-TXYES
GigaPocket
GigaPocket TV Tuner BoardYES
Dimensions
Height Main Unit (mm)380Width Main Unit (mm)195Depth Main Unit (mm)391Weight (kg)13
Pre-installed Sony Software
Click to DVD1.2DVgate2.60GigaPocket5.5PictureGear Studio1.0Sonic Stage1.6Vaio Media2.5
Pre-installed Third Party Software
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader®5.1Adobe® Photoshop® Elements2.0Adobe® Premiere®6.0 LEMicrosoft® Works7.0Power DVD4.0Quicktime™6.1RealOne® Player6.0
Supplied Accessories
Power Cord1PS/2® Keyboard1External Speaker Set1PS/2® Optical Wheel Mouse1Remote Control1
Warranty
Guarantee (Months)12


i just coped these from the internet,

so it says i have a NVIDIA® GeForce™ FX 5200
is this card any good???

thanks
shyam335
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Posted: 2004-11-23 02:16
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P900lover , your micro processor core is based on northwood . Not to disappoint you , but the fact is that fx5200 is the worst dx 9 performance,but anyways its better than integrated graphics :-)

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nickorooster
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Posted: 2004-11-23 08:58
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Yeah, I was going to point out the graphics card and even say it was better than integrated! Wow... Great minds think alike i guess .

However, I know next to nothing about intel's processing cores, is Northwood the older or the newer one?

Edit: DOn't get me wrong though, I'd love your PC. WIth my graphics card . And some more RAM.

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shyam335
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Posted: 2004-11-23 14:31
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On 2004-11-23 08:58:34, nickorooster wrote:
Yeah, I was going to point out the graphics card and even say it was better than integrated! Wow... Great minds think alike i guess .






may be , actually northwood is the older core,it doesnt have large cache like prescott (only 512kb ,presscot 1mb),no sse3 etc etc .


hey guys did u all hear, ati is gonna release x850 graphic cards this december
nickorooster
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Posted: 2004-11-23 14:42
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I knew they couldn't stay behind the 6800 Ultra for long. ATI is too good for that. Now it's just price that'll win me over.
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Ati claims itll beat nVIDIAs 6800ultra by 20% in 3dmark05 and huge performance increase (upto 50%) in other titles . Wait a minute,these are ati claims ,but i expect a good performance increase through out

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nickorooster
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Posted: 2004-11-23 18:40
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Well, I reckon 3DMark 05 is a good testing medium, although some manufacturers (not mentioning any names) develop some drivers (again, no names) that produce a false increase in 3Dmark Scores. Like nVidia. Damnit I wasn't supposed to give names.

But seriously folks, Post your 3Dmark scores here too.
If you don't know what 3DMark is, you can get the trial from fututremark.

On mine 3Dmark 05 only runs the first game test, and thus cannot give a result. So I'll post my 03 results here soon...

Oh and if your card is not Direct X 9 compatible, you son't get accurate scores from 3Dmark 03 either. So go get 3Dmark 01 SE.

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Posted: 2004-11-23 18:46
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Use 03 since most computers can run that, as you pointed out, you'd have to have a good PC to run 05.
I heard that some people had been able to get 10000+ points on 05
They had used the new SLI motherboard with support for dual PCI-express cards, then they had loaded it with two 6800ultra, and overclocked it!!!
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Posted: 2004-11-23 18:54
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What could be the best benchmarking software ....sisoft or something else...... :se: K700i

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Posted: 2004-11-23 21:33
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Gee Nick, it'd be a shame to (not mentioning names) state how the manufacturer of the radeon (again no names) actually cheated before nvidia in driver tests sent to the big testing sites so that when others benchmarked ati (oh damn my eyes!) the scores on some games were completely rigged in their favour.

Lets face it both the big guys cheat, its just like politics to them. Realworld gaming is a little different to most test scenarios though. Test machines are great but in no way encompass the fact that gamers run multiple drives, usually don't have 2 sticks of high end corsair handy (well I used to but hey I worked for the importer then ;D - best ram EVER btw) and are hardly always using the latest mobo and top end graphics combo.

Personally if buying a new card i'd look at the games played and research which gets better on which card for the conditions that they're played in. (IE i play most of mine 1280+ full detail, 32 bit, some with AA, some without, online games I run 1600 x 1200) Ati will cream nVidia in some games while the opposite is always true. For everything else, as long as the monitor gets a display, all should be fine. ;D
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Posted: 2004-11-23 22:05
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Yeah, maybe if you close your eyes for very long imes and have them open short
How can you run online games in that res? It's veery much, espicially for an online game...
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Posted: 2004-11-23 22:15
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My specs, very satisfied with them:

AMD AthlonXP 2400+ (2,GhZ)
512mb Corsair RAM
120 GB Barracuda HDD
Sapphire 9600 PRO GPU
nVidia nForce 2 NFS-7 motherboard...

working like a charm with doom 3 and HL2
nickorooster
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Posted: 2004-11-23 22:40
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Quite similar to my machine actually... Only I have a better GPU, but your RAM and Motherboard are much better than mine . Aw well.

And hey, I know both of them cheat, I was simply using the example to do with vVidia's drivers for the 3DMark 03 benchmark . Besides, I'll probably be getting a 6800 next anyways, unless ATI drop their price too.

On a side note (sort of) you can get SPMark, a sort of "3DMark" for smartphones. It worked on my p800, and I got a score of 642. Give it a try, you can get it from www.futuremark.com (go to downloads at the top right )

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Posted: 2004-11-24 01:14
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Is The G Force FX 5700 Le 8x Card any good for the price 200 u.s. Dollars???
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Posted: 2004-11-24 02:19
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@UE

I have good eyesight. I run my desktop at 1600 x 1200 small font without a hassle. Only times I increase font sizes is on some webpages that insist on writing in 2 pt font because they think we're all still looking at the web on an 800 x 600 screen.

@omni
Best benchmarking software imo comes down to which videocard you use, I still rate mine with 3dmark2001 (I think) since that was the standard at that time. Anything 10K+ is rocking for score. Mind you i'm benchmarking with a Geforce 4 Ti4200, nothing spectacular.

@nick
Myself i'm waiting on nForce4 before upgrading surrent system is:

Gigabyte 7n400 2.0 (nForce2 board)
2 * Kingston ddr 333/400 (I forget which lol, I think its 333, hell could be 400 for all I remember, its certainly running at 200. )
Albatron 8x GeForce ti4280 128 meg (Not bad, had a chaintec 4x card in there previous, the chaintec seemed more stable to OC)
AMD Xp2500 running at 3200. (Happy with that ;D)
Volcano 11 cooler
Some HDDs, all seagate, 1 x 40, 2 x 80, 1 x 120, 4 x 200 (1 sata)
Hercules Game Theatre XP (bar none the best sound package I have ever used)
Samsung 52 spd CD-RW
Gateway 19" VX900 Monitor
Thermaltake 420watt PSU (v nice, more connectors than I needed for once! Unlike most every psu :/)
Lian Li case to package it all up nicely,

For gaming she's a pretty solid rig, most things I have no issues with. Farcry at 1024 with alot of medium high details made me weep like a schoolboy hit by a teachers blackboard duster. Else everything else is great. Only thing i'm not getting is some of the niftier particle effects in games. :/ (Just started playing Nexus, formerly known as Imperium Galactic 3, stunning )

Pretty happy with the system atm, would love a 6800 but figure i'll upgrade later to a new chip as well so planning to hold off and spend the money in the meantime.
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