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kooksy
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Posted: 2004-11-04 10:43
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Hi,

I have a K700i phone and need to backup my contacts. The software available to me is to sync with MS Outlook but all I need is a backup program....Nokia have this so I thought SonyEricsson would??

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks!
masseur
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Posted: 2004-11-04 10:51
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using bluetooth or infra red in contacts you can choose "send this folder" and it creates a VCF file with everything in the folder you are in (or all if you choose that as your folder)

this then is a standard file that can be imported elsewhere and (I think as I have never tried it) even sent back to the phone in future

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kooksy
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Posted: 2004-11-04 11:42
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Nice one...I'll give that a go
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Posted: 2004-11-04 12:21
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@masseur: I am sorry but never seen such a option on my k700i From where can u get "send this folder" option pls tell.

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masseur
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Posted: 2004-11-04 12:26
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how weird! I really thought I was replying to an pxxx question.

anyway in K700 its phonebook, options, advanced, send all contacts

this does the same thing
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Posted: 2004-11-04 12:38
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@vineet_d

From the addressbook you can choose to send an individual contact or all contacts using Bluetooth or IR. The item(s) are then sent to the PC:s default Bluetooth/IR folder as seperate VCF files. These files can be opened in e-mail applications and/or sent back to the phone and therefore serve as backup files.

To send all items, you go through the preference menu in the phonebook. To send an individual contact, it's easiest to just scroll in the addressbook to the contact you want to backup and choose to send it (either through Bluetooth or IR).

Remember this though. When sending contacts which have individual pictures and/or ringtones assigned to them, the pictures and ringtones are sent as well. This means that if you have the same picture for - let's say - ten contacts, the same picture is sent with each contact. When you then choose to restore the phonebook by sending all contacts back to the phone, the same picture is sent ten times (renamed with numbers). If you have a large phonebook with the same picture for all contacts, your phone will need a lot of free memory while restoring, otherwise you will get a "memory full" error message. If memory is enough, you can erase the "extra" pictures afterwards and reassign the same picture for the contacts you want though (this method also goes for ringtones).

Good luck!
vineet_d
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Posted: 2004-11-04 12:40
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Thanks! but whenever i tried sending contacts from my k700i to pc via it creates .vcf file for each entry i guess something to do with my sw settings
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Posted: 2004-11-04 12:45
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that is strange, I tried it before posting (as I almost always do) and from the P910 I got a single file called all.vcf and from the K700 I got a single file called Whole Phonebook.vcf

either I, or CyberVisitor, will try and reproduce what you are getting
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Posted: 2004-11-04 12:48
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@vineet_d

It's related to how your PC:s Bluetooth software handles incomming PIM-files. Check your preferences. If there are no such preferences, you will have to live with the way your Bluetooth software recieve the phonebook entries on your PC (as a whole file or as individual files for each contact). In both cases though, the pictures and ringtones are sent with each contact as I mention above.

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vineet_d
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Posted: 2004-11-04 13:41
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I have taken some screenshots of my sw-

This is the local service dialog box in which PIM transfer service is selected.


Now click on properties.


This is the property screen.


Now when i click on Business Card I get only these options.



Please suggest what to do
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Posted: 2004-11-04 14:03
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@vineet_d

Some Bluetooth software offer the setting to choose between "individual files" or "one file". Yours doesn't. Each contact is therefore saved as an individual VCF file when recieved by the PC using Bluetooth. Here's a workaround.

Choose "Microsoft Outlook" or "Outlook Express" in the dialog that is presented in your last picture. Then send the contacts (all or those you want to backup) using Bluetooth. Those contacts are then sent to the prefered applications VCF file and saved in it. Find that VCF file afterwards and make a copy of it. You can then store it as a backup for future needs. It's a compatible format that the phone can recieve when you need to do a restore.

However, note that it's perfectly fine to save each individual VCF file as a backup too. If you ever need to do a restore, just mark them all and choose "Send to [your Bluetooth units name]" and they are all sent properly to your phone.

In your case, I'd go for the latter. Otherwise, in case the e-mail clients VCF file isn't completely empty when sending your contacts, you could get unwanted contacts (not on your phone) "restored" if you choose that in the future. Of course you could make sure that the clients VCF file is empty before doing the backup, but I see no reason not to go for the individual files as a backup option.

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kooksy
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Posted: 2004-11-04 14:33
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This is way too much hassle! Nokia have a program that can do this easy...why haven't SonyEricsson?

Think my BlueTooth software only has folder too, so I will backup to Outlook then export the file to a CSV format.
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Posted: 2004-11-04 14:44
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Quote:

On 2004-11-04 14:33:26, kooksy wrote:
Think my BlueTooth software only has folder too, so I will backup to Outlook then export the file to a CSV format.




I really don't understand why it's so important for you to have the option to transfer all the contacts into one single VCF file. When you do a restore later on, all those contacts will be restored, and maybe that is fine today... but in the future when you really need to do the restore, some of those contacts could be obsolete. If you then instead have each contact saved as individual files, those obsolete contacts can be deleted from your backup folder before the actual restore process. If everything is saved as a backup in one single file, you will have all contacts restored (even the obsolete ones) and then you will have to manually delete these contacts from your phones addressbook.

I can only see positive things about having each contact stored as individual files for backup. Picture this for instance: You by misstake delete a contact from your phones addressbook. Now you want to restore it. Find the individual contact in your PC:s backup folder and transfer that contact back to the phone. Very simple indeed!

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kooki
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Posted: 2004-11-04 14:45
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hey!
u stole my name!!!
vineet_d
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Posted: 2004-11-04 15:00
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@CyberVisitor:

Thanks a million for that explanation.

@kooksy:

No its not a hassle, it just depends on the software ur using.

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