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Laykay
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Hey guys about the 3g network thing i think its great and goin 2help alot of nigerians but the problem will be switching to 3g phones and guess they're expensive but i trust 9ja they will get it 4cheap also about the ngbot.com he's really gonna get paid thru google adsense that d lastest web payment machine ask d nairaland guy really a rich man now. I guess i too need 2 switch to it soon.
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abubakar
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@AYA: 3G uses the frequencies i mentioned before including the frequencies 2.5 are currently using. I dont know if NCC specifically has made the service to lay on the outer ranges (400, 850 and 1900).
@coola: A blackberry is like porsche!!! Its for the rich!!!!
@laykay: switching to 3G will be like switching to colour screens or switching to camera phone. Eventually a few cheap(er) versions will start floating around then it will be the norm. as always my problem is more whether the services will be affordable any time soon
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OluYom
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On 2006-09-09 13:20:50, abubakar wrote:
@AYA: 3G uses the frequencies i mentioned before including the frequencies 2.5 are currently using. I dont know if NCC specifically has made the service to lay on the outer ranges (400, 850 and 1900).
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@abu: I may have missed that post. What frequencies did you mention? 3G networks, as I've said many times on this thread, are not upgrades of 2/2.5G networks. 3G networks require and operate on a different and higher frequency spectrum. As such a new licence for that spectrum must be issued before ANY GSM network can deploy 3G. Here's a Wiki reference: http://pda.en.wapedia.org/3G. You can also do a Google, or search the UMTS/3G forums on Esato.
Its different for the CDMA networks. EVDO, for example, does not require a different spectrum or licence, and that's why Starcomms can deploy without restrictions.
I know that a debate similar to this has been run earlier in this thread. I am still wondering what the debate was really about.
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OluYom
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@abu: WCDMA/3G runs on 2100MHz. A 3G phone cannot run on both GSM and 3G networks/frequencies at the same time. If it moves out of 3G coverage, it actually has to switch from the WCDMA Radio Access Network to the GSM (GPRS/EDGE) Radio Access Network. Again, that's because 3G is a different network, so to speak.
@laykay: I have been looking at the cost factor too. But generally, 3G is usually priced same as GPRS. However here in Naija, GPRS costs certainly need to drop further.
As for handsets, you can pick up brand new 3G phones in the market from 30k. I got my E61 for N40k. For a smartphone of its calibre, that's a deal.
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mamba
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@AYA, pls help me with this s55 gprs wahala abeg. I'm missing out on the gprs fun because of this stupid device that has refuced to connect. My laptop doesnt have infrared or serial so i'm stuck with bluetooth and i've tried everything on earth without success.
As per 3G, you can get a Nec E616 or some motorola ones for about 15k, even sonyericsson V600 costs 18k, very good 3G phone I must say.
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Laykay
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Hey guys good job there.I must say its been wonderful workin wit u guys.
@aya: your E61 guess its a cool phone also i think those Nec phones that have 2 cameras one in front n back.Had one but sold it.Need to get it back.
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OluYom
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@mamba: Give me a call to fix a time I can come troubleshoot. Its been a while I played with the S55; but I guess I can do some good if I lay my hands on it.
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brix25
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On 2006-09-10 08:44:37, mamba wrote:
You will most definitely need to switch your current SIM for a 3G one to use the service. 3G is a different level from edge or basic gprs.
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No, no, no...that's a common fallacy. I'm connected to Vodacom's 3G network on my PC via my N70 and I'm using a three year-old 32K simcard. The only thing the 64K(USIM) which you're probably refering to is store more information.
For all the folks in Naija who have been complaining about DStv, check out this thread on the upcoming licencing of new players in the satellite arena.
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pxthomas
Joined: May 14, 2006
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@Brix... from what i can gather from the thread it appears my brothers in SA are highly dissatisfied with multicheats. Sorry multichoice. So telkom wants to go into pay tv in the interest of the mass market?
STORY.
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OluYom
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@brix: There is more to it than just larger capacity. I understand that USIMs also feature enhanced network security.
But you are right that a different SIM is not always necessary. Certain networks have been known to require 3G/Universal SIMs in order to be able to use 3G. But there are also others that old 2G SIMs work quite fine on. That's why I carefully used "may" in the post in which I mentioned the subject.
Where the network allows the use of older 2G SIMs, I am told, the SIMs are updated OTA to enable them for 3G services. I haven't confirmed that bit though.
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ambyzown
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On 2006-09-09 12:21:36, coolapostle wrote:
ABOUT THIS BLACKBERRY WAHALA
.....(Glo is claiming it is FIRST to bring Blackberry... so what? MTN was first to bring Sendo S200 and they don't make noise about it)
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ABOUT THIS BLACKBERRY WAHALA....
-It is elitist
-It requires special email servers for the corporation
-I don't see what is the big deal
......-It is sad the amount of newspaper adverts that is devoted to it... a waste IMHO... they should target Corporate Naija and leave u alone.
And now Celtel wants to join in? Puleeese...
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No coola, it isn't an elitist service. You won't realise the benefits or usefulness of a push email service like Blackberry RIM, Visto or Emoze because u use yahoo mail where u can log in and check ur mail from anywhere. For people who work in large corporations like Shell, and the various banks whose email addresses are like...coolapostle@chevronng.com how do they retrieve their mail when out of the office? thats where push email becomes beneficial.
If Glo or Celtel offers this service, rest assured they already have market for it. Most "Big boys" and all wannabes in the banking industry will want to have one. Not to mention the idumota traders who want to impress their friends. |
OluYom
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On 2006-09-10 22:31:21, ambyzown wrote:
For people who work in large corporations like Shell, and the various banks whose email addresses are like...coolapostle@chevronng.com how do they retrieve their mail when out of the office? thats where push email becomes beneficial.
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Not necessarilly. Corporate mail services have their own web-based interfaces from which mail accounts can be accessed. And they always have POP3 and/or IMAP functionality, allowing you to use Outlook or any PC/mobile mail client to get and respond to your mails.
Most of these mail clients have what is called "pull email", meaning they can be configured to automaticlly login to your mailbox at intervals to retrieve new mails and send outgoing.
While PUSH email is great, because you receive your mails in real-time (theoretically), most people do not need it.Except you run a mission-critical service, you are not likely to have real need for split-second access to your mails.
Most times, 5 minutes or so mail retrieval time is more than okay for the rest of the world. Why I would want to pay N10,000 service charge per month for PUSH email is beyond me at the moment. In comparison, Seven AlwaysOn offers PUSH email for N3,000 per month. I used it with my 9500 for close to a year and it works just fine. In addition, you don't need a particular device to enjoy their service. Download the specified application for your smartphone, signup with them, and you are good to go.
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coolapostle
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Most times, 5 minutes or so mail retrieval time is more than okay for the rest of the world. Why I would want to pay N10,000 service charge per month for PUSH email is beyond me at the moment. |
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N10,000????? Is that the price for the Glo Blackberry service?
@Mamba... how many of the "Big Boys" have even used WAP/MMS? How much more email?
I used my T610 to access my Yahoo.co.uk email account... with a little tweaking, I could use it with ANY POP3 account. So why a Blackberry?
Another Money-miss-road marketing campaign.
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OluYom
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On 2006-09-11 15:01:54, coolapostle wrote:
N10,000????? Is that the price for the Glo Blackberry service?
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Yup! And that's just monthly access; not counting data usage.
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abubakar
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@coola: You are talking about checking your mail. With the Blackberry when you recieve the mail, it is sent to you and you are notified, while you are in the middle of your "big boys" meeting so everyone will know you ar an important, busy gadgeted person!!! If you check your phone people will think its only a text!!!!!!
@AYA: a partial concession on my side, 3G services do run at 1920 - 2170 MHz. when in non3G areas, the 3G phone runs on the normal GSM frequencies. Every 3G phone I've ever seen has them within thier network spectrum specs. A concession none the less. (but i read about the use of 3G within 1900 range tho, check http://www.gsmworld.com/using/spectrum/frequencies.shtml )
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