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sahran
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Posted: 2004-06-23 15:45
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hello esato members..

i was asking this question many times here in esato and in other forums
about how to play AAC file audio in our K700 but no body answer me maby no body know (me too know nothing ) exipt TheRealSpawn he said that SE support told him that only plays .aac as audiotrack in a videofile. and another guy his nickname ac (at the same thread K700i & mp3) said he using program to convert aac file to mp4.

now here i tell you what i done it sample and easy :

after creating AAC file from itunes program the extension file will be m4a , i rename the extension file to mp4 then send it to my K700 (what do you think??) it work like a charm....it saved automaticly in sound folder, you can play it from sound folder and from media player, you can't set it as ringtone....sooo bad whyyyy?

i hope this helps who want to play AAC file.

thanks




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Swedish_Chef
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Posted: 2004-06-23 16:13
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oh thanx for letting us know

..doesnt matter if you cant have it as a ringtone.. yo can shorten some mp3's for that
kinc
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Posted: 2004-06-23 16:34
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Not working on my P900 using iMac as well
Dj Boyi
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Posted: 2004-06-23 16:39
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I have sonic stage(sony minidisc sw),can i use this somehow?

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Jools
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Posted: 2004-06-23 16:52
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@kinc

P900 doesn't have AAC playback facilities as far as I know.

@boyi

You can use iTunes (free download) to make AAC files and its better than SonicStage anyway! 

kinc
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Posted: 2004-06-23 17:52
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@ jools
I downloaded from itunes shop came in acc tried to convert to mp3 high quality, itunes store protected the song gutted Is there a way of bypassing?
JasonDeFaoite
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Posted: 2004-06-23 18:12
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songs from iTunes music store are .m4p (p for protected). Easiest way to convert to mp3 is to burn the aac to cd and re rip the song as an mp3.

Either that or read up on playfair
StoneRoses
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Posted: 2004-07-05 09:00
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K700 can play AAC LC (low complexity profile) very well but cannot be set as ringtone (I think firmware update will fix this).

I tried CBR AAC create with iTunes and also try VBR AAC create with Nero's AAC encoder. Too bad K700 did not support HE (High Efficiency) profile which could significantly improve sound quality on low bitrate encode. (AAC-HE at 64kbps sound very nice)
DungeonMaster
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Posted: 2004-07-05 09:15
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But anyway 40 megabytes of memory are not handy for storing mp3 files. But its capacity is great for games, photos, mp3 tones and videos. I plan to buy it at august

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StoneRoses
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Posted: 2004-07-05 09:41
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I have iPod (recommmend if you are serious music fan), so I my main use for MP3 and AAC in K700 is for ringtone only. That why I want to use lowest bitrate while the sound quality is acceptable via speaker.

From my experiment yesterday on this issue I found that VBR mono MP3 (for ringtone you don't need stereo) encode with lame 3.96 (using switch -a -V8) is my favourite. The resulting bitrate is about 32-40kbps with sampling rate 32kHz and sound very nice from K700's speaker. Save alot of space compare to 128kbps MP3.

Actually, I've found that VBR AAC LC encode with Nero (second lowest VBR setting) beat MP3 on quality/bitrate, but for some strange reason (I think it's just programing mistake) K700 does not allow AAC as ringtone.
djoptimum
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Posted: 2004-07-05 10:35
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@stoneroses

off topic i know but i just cannot agree that an ipod is for 'serious music fans' as it doesnt play OGG or FLAC!!

these formats are designed with the audiophile in mind - hence their high quality and FLAC being the digital format for audiophiles

not discounting that ur a real music fan of course roses - just maybe some scope to learn about some new/other formats that are out there?
StoneRoses
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Posted: 2004-07-05 13:03
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[offtopic]IMHO, lossless (flac/monkey's audio) are somewhat too much for portable use because the listening evironment and/or equiptment, harddrive and battery limitation etc.

At least iPod supports AAC and the quality of headphone output of this player is quite decent (according to the test by stereophile)
http://www.stereophile.com/digitalsourcereviews/934/

For lossy codec I must say Apple Quicktime AAC encoder (Dolby Labs'one) used in iTunes is one of the best codec according to the recent public listening test:
http://www.rjamorim.com/test/128extension/results.html
http://www.rjamorim.com/test/multiformat128/results.html

One interesting note is Offcial build of Ogg Vorbis didn't even come close on the first multiformat competition. (in the 2nd test they use Aoyumi's aoTuV Custom tuned Ogg Vorbis encoder)

If you interesting in Ogg Vorbis, I suggest you to read this thread (and hydrogenaudio.org too)
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?showtopic=15049
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markcas
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Posted: 2004-07-05 17:49
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When you encode music into AACs using iTunes, does the K700 recognizes the ID3 tags (title & artist)? Tried converting them using dbpoweramp and the media player only displayed the file name.
StoneRoses
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Posted: 2004-07-06 07:11
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K700 cant read iTunes tags too.

P.S. Tags in mp4 AAC is not ID3 tag, it's MPEG-4 tag object (technically it's called Atom)
kesperse
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Posted: 2004-07-06 23:01
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works great on my p900 dude!! =) its just that you play it with the videoplayer.. and when you do theres a blue speaker instead of video..

works on z1010 too..
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