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Ke
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Te iru, te iru, janai, janai, haha, still unable to relate or cope up with these tongue twisting & mind boggling language, better to up up & away! 
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blackspot
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On 2010-04-22 11:28:00, Cyborg_a0 wrote:
oh, your right, never think of that
so the plain form is
gozaru
gozaimasu(formal)
actually i thought it was bozaru yo, it sounds like that, but when you posted gozaru, im enlightened 
I also watch a lot of classic samurai and ninja movies and they use "gozaru" / "gozaimasu" a lot.
"yo" is like an expression that gives emphasis or more weight to your sentence.
example:
This is mine. -- if you just say "kore wa watashi no desu." it will convey the message but if you say "kore wa watashi no desu yo!" it will sound like you want them to listen and believe.
like when a parent tells his child to stop "yamete!" it sounds stronger with "yamete yo!".
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Cyborg_a0
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another confusing one is why they are adding N in the verb
Nani itte-n da yo?
(what are you talking about?) |
blackspot
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I hear that a lot too, like in "hontou ni ii n' desu ka?"
I believe the n is short for "no" so it supposed to be "hontou ni ii no desu ka?" (but i may be wrong).
I don't really know what it means but in my understanding, in a casual conversation the adding of the "no" or "n" adds a sense of reassurance or confirmation to the topic.
example:
A: "ii desu ka?" -- is it ok?
B: "hai, ii desu." -- yes, it's ok.
A: "hontou ni ii n' desu ka?" -- really? are you sure? (or something like that)
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Cyborg_a0
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but the female speech(don't know if it can also be use by boys) of that is
Nani itten no
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Nani itten yo
so it couldn't be,
'nani itte no no' the sentence is now wrong.
[ This Message was edited by: Cyborg_a0 on 2010-04-23 01:20 ] |
blackspot
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I don't know about that, but it could be "nani itte no?" which could mean "what did you say?"
"nani itte n yo?" could mean "what the heck are you saying?" or something like that...
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Cyborg_a0
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091023134026AA973T8 |
blackspot
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you're right, that's possibly a different rule, looks like adding the n to itte makes it pertain to the second person. I don't know...
thanks for that I learn something today.
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Cyborg_a0
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casual sometimes breaks the rules of japanese grammar, made me confuse, still i got to learn more.
they have also this unpronounced vowel
'tte
i was thinking if its 'itte'
here's a line of conversation from anime.
Eri: Hario 'tte?
Nurse: Sumimasen, Harima kun .......
Eri: Hario???
Nurse: Sorry, Harima ....
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hmm, what is the meaning of 'tte here? |
blackspot
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probably just an expression like "ano..." or "eto...", you know when your unsure of what to say.
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Cyborg_a0
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On 2010-04-22 11:34:01, Ke wrote:
Te iru, te iru, janai, janai, haha, still unable to relate or cope up with these tongue twisting & mind boggling language, better to up up & away!
start from basic first,
try greetings and simple phrases.
am still reviewing that. |
Cyborg_a0
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yosh! I found a link related to my question.
http://www.studyjapanese.org/forum/2-japanese-language/4384-whats-tte-how-and-when-it-could-be-used?limit=6 |
blackspot
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面白いですが難しいですよ!
I think that's something you can't learn from books. Thanks for the link.
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Cyborg_a0
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sou desu ne!
sou da na!
i can't post hiragana char in operamini?
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Cyborg_a0
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i hear this expression a lot in the anime i'm watching right now, i check it out on online dict, but no match found.
Mataku!
-geez!/ oh man!/ what a troublesome!
[ This Message was edited by: Cyborg_a0 on 2010-04-23 13:28 ] |
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