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Author Nokia 6230 Will Hit Big Time For SE
hurny
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Posted: 2003-11-20 09:15
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What else smarty? How about a MMC? What about mp3? (we're excluding smartphones from this). I actually think that the inbuilt radio is a very handy and sought after feature.

Its probably one of the main reasons Nokia has so many customers. Maybe SE should think about it- whadya reckon?
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Posted: 2003-11-20 09:19
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exclude smartphones from this, and Nokia has nothing to offer either.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 09:22
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We are excluding smart phones- thats what I said only a few posts ago. Notice the title of the thread- its about the 6230.

Hey by the way- do you diehards think the 6230 seems like a good phone?
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Posted: 2003-11-20 09:30
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a bit contradictory, excluding smartphones from a discussion about a smartphone. but we'll let that pass.

the 6230's features are certainly good.

although i would have prefered an SD drive instead of an ancient MMC one.

also, i would prefer a less funeral-like design - there's a difference between classy/understated and gothic/morbid.

oh, and a more robust [and 'open' - think Quickshare] operating system - the Nokia interface pales in comparision to, for example, the T610's.

so all that's good about the 6230 are its features. those are just the bits and pieces. in the 6230's case, the sum of the parts is certainly far greater than the whole.

[ This Message was edited by: aaronkhoo on 2003-11-20 08:31 ]
hurny
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Posted: 2003-11-20 09:34
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Well- some decent conversation..
Although the 6230 has pretty advanced features, I dont think it comes under the category of 'smartphone'.
Thus the above comment that it is not a smartphone.


Too bad there's not a category of 'dumbphone' for a few models I can think of.
aaronkhoo
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Posted: 2003-11-20 09:46
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the 6230 runs on Nokia's Symbian Series 40, if i'm not mistaken.

and it has all the features of phones belonging to the smartphone catergory [7650, 3650, etc].

hence, i do believe it is a smartphone.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 10:52
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Series 40 has nothing to do with Symbian. The 6230 runs on Nokia OS. It lacks Symbian's most significant features, application multitasking and almost unlimited access to the phones resources. That's the difference between normal phones and smartphones. Remember how the 7650 didn't have video recording by default? A 3rd party application was developed by modifying the camera and voice recorder software to make it possible. That's smartphone. Series 60 (7650, 3650, 3600, N-Gage, 3660, 3620, 6600), Series 80 (92xx) and Series 90 (7700, the next Communicator) are Symbian phones.

The 6230 adds great features to a normal phone. But from a programming/software point of view, it's still a normal phone.

[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-11-20 10:02 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-11-20 12:09 ]
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Posted: 2003-11-20 10:57
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Well done Finn- great answer. Thats what I thought.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 11:00
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trying to title the 6230 a smartphone so that it can't be compared to SE T6XX ain't gonna work.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 11:02
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So what Nokia phones do you own Finn?

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Flying Finn
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Posted: 2003-11-20 11:08
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Right now a 8310, my N-Gage is a having a FW upgrade. Previously had a 3510, 3410, 7110 and a 5110. Having an SE-open mind I've considered of buying a T68, T300, T600, T610, Z200 and Z600 in the past. I might well buy an SE some day.
From Nokias to an SE to whatever.
hurny
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Posted: 2003-11-20 11:10
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There you go. I like your signature.
I've had a T610, T310, T68i and a T20e.

The T20e was an Ericsson and the best of the lot
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Posted: 2003-11-20 11:48
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Quote:

On 2003-11-20 11:00:24, Flying Finn wrote:
trying to title the 6230 a smartphone so that it can't be compared to SE T6XX ain't gonna work.



titling the 6230 a smartphone wasn't to compare the 6230 and the T600-series. it was to compare it with the rest of its Nokia brethren.

the features of the 6230 indeed cannot be compared with those of the T600-series. but who was comparing the two?

i was simply comparing the lacklustre 'Nokia OS' to the Sony Ericsson user interface.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 13:02
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Wasn't this entire thread comparing the two. The 6230 is very much in the same category as SE T610/30 but has more features.

[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-11-20 12:20 ]
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Posted: 2003-11-20 14:51
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The entire thread may have been, but i certainly wasn't.

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