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New P800 features and capabilities...??? |
fijbert
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kinda useless arguing about whether the internals is the same or not when we dont hv a WHITE SHEET
T68m-T68i upgrade was made possible cuz it was the SAME phone
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haydnw
Joined: May 28, 2003
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My point of view is that surely your phone software is similar to your pc - you'd expect bug fixes and stuff (eg Windows updates and service packs), but if someone brought out a different version in different packaging (eg Win98 SE after Win98), you'd still expect to have to pay to get the newest version. Especially if there's nothing inherently wrong with the first version!
Sure, SE made a smart move allowing T68 users to upgrade, but the phone internals were the same AFAIK, so there was no major incentive for users to buy a 68i. If they'd made the phone smaller and the screen better, people would never have expected a free software upgrade. I think most people were surprised when they got the one they did anyway! So IMHO it's not worth SE modifying all the P900 software to work on the P800 - as previously pointed out the development time alone would cost a fortune - unless of course they want you to pay for a new firmware version!  But that's another debate entirely... |
BlackBauer24
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I have the white sheet... it says, pure silk dry clean only on the back. will this help?
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drinker
Joined: Oct 06, 2003
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Arfi, I'm sorry but you still haven't managed to convince me that P800 owners have the right to demand a free firmware upgrade to the P900.
If you bought a a brand new Golf and then a year later Volkswagen slightly improve the interior, would you be complaining to Volkswagen? Would you be demanding that that they upgrade your car's interior? Of course not.
It is exactly the same situation with the P800; you have absolutely no right to demand a free upgrade to the P900. You keep going on about how the P900 is just a slightly modified version of the P800. So what if it is? That Golf I used in my analogy was only slightly modified, but you wouldn't expect a free upgrade would you?
Of course, it is all about marketing. SE wants to keep their phones at the forefront of the market, and they will make changes to their models to achieve this. As time goes by their models get better and better. This has the inevitable effect that eventually your model gets left behind. Well surprise, surprise, this is what happens in every industry!! No one expects a company to provide free upgrades from old products - what is the point in that? If that was the case then people would be driving around in twenty year old Golfs that have been upgraded every year for the last twenty years so that they are effectively new cars. Great for the consumer, but Volkswagen would have been made bankrupt years ago!!
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Arfi-Gorgona
Joined: Jul 17, 2003
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From: greece
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Then they get my @@ in the next round.If they dont update i choose another brand more reliable than them.why samsung update you dont answer this Is this convincing enough for you?Is Samsung and other companies like nokia respecr their customers and give this upgrades why sony not?If they dont respect us why bother to buy the phones they made.Now try to argue with this!!!Almost all the companies give the upgrades so the right way for sony is to give it too after some time i cant expect to give it in the release of the phone just for marketing.
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drinker
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I am not aware of Samsung providing a free firmware update to upgrade a phone to a newer model. Which model was it and which model did it get upgraded to? Are you sure it was not just a simple incremental upgrade like the t68m -> t68i ??
And I've certainly never heard of Nokia doing this.
In fact I can't think of any manufacturers who have offered free upgrades. |
Arfi-Gorgona
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On 2003-10-14 23:06:59, drinker wrote:
I am not aware of Samsung providing a free firmware update to upgrade a phone to a newer model. Which model was it and which model did it get upgraded to? Are you sure it was not just a simple incremental upgrade like the t68m -> t68i ??
And I've certainly never heard of Nokia doing this.
In fact I can't think of any manufacturers who have offered free upgrades.
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Well then try the new nokia 3610 i think? and the old one the 7650? they offer the upgrade of video and other fuatures in the old one,And you say you dont know this?in what age you are in 1980  So if the other companies did it i expect it for sony too or else its ok i buy nokia the other time if they give better support..
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drinker
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Arfi, I don't know what you are talking about. The 3650 is effectively the successor to the 7650, and you cannot get a 3650 firmware upgrade for the 7650.
The 3610 is a Chinese version phone I think. Don't you mean the 3660? The 3660 is the successor to the 3650. I am fairly sure Nokia won't upgrade your 3650 to the 3660 for you. |
Arfi-Gorgona
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On 2003-10-14 23:24:59, drinker wrote:
Arfi, I don't know what you are talking about. The 3650 is effectively the successor to the 7650, and you cannot get a 3650 firmware upgrade for the 7650.
The 3610 is a Chinese version phone I think. Don't you mean the 3660? The 3660 is the successor to the 3650. I am fairly sure Nokia won't upgrade your 3650 to the 3660 for you.
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yes 3650 i forgot the numbers but they give the old one the same updates as the 3650.Why nokia offers the same upgrades and sony not?What do you keep saying about the firmware man i dont give a damn about the firmware i want the upgrades as nokia uses get for their phones!
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drinker
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Arfi, again I don't know what you are talking about. As I said before, you cannot get a 3650 firmware upgrade for the 7650. I am not aware of any Nokia phone that you can get a firmware update to upgrade it to a newer, different model. |
Arfi-Gorgona
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On 2003-10-14 23:43:21, drinker wrote:
Arfi, again I don't know what you are talking about. As I said before, you cannot get a 3650 firmware upgrade for the 7650. I am not aware of any Nokia phone that you can get a firmware update to upgrade it to a newer, different model.
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Oh man whatever..You just keep saying your firmware and firmware loll scr_w the firmware i talk about the upgrades i dont give a damn if its firmware or external all the cam phone support now video mms if sony dont want to do it in their p800 then nice for them Waht do you say about that nixin?And i want the sister mermaid upgrade too many little mermaid jump up and donw in side the p800!! is this upgrade legitimate or its a firmware from a new phone too lol
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drinker
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Arfi, yes, more and more new phones will be offering video MMS and 16-bit colour screens.
The P800 is a a year old, which is positively geriatric in phone years. It is time for a fresh model, and that is the P900.
So if you want all these new features you are going to have to buy a new phone (it is not up to SE to give you all this for free). |
Arfi-Gorgona
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On 2003-10-12 05:14:00, frozenwaffles wrote:
Just wondering what you think of these new features that i think will become available for the P800 once the P900 becomes available:
1. User upgradeable phone firmware over the internet via SyncStation
2. P800 firmware enhancements that stem from P900 (as long as P800 hardware supports the feature; eg:
Comunicorder on P800 as camera hardware can record video
No new colour scheme as P800 only has 4096 colours
T9 text input
3. UIQ version 2.1 on P800 (as part of above)
4. Bluetooth enhancements, new profiles, etc (hopefully BIP and FTP)
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what sony ericsson do about this. i knwo there are currently lots of bugs in the P800 still so there will be new firmware coming out as time goes by (just like the T68i). i have discovered some bugs and suggested new features and i know that Sony Ericsson Australia said they will pass the ideas on and that there is a very good chance they will be added to the phone. lets just hope that my above list will happen and maybe some more!!!
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i think all the above exept 1st and 4rth and the 65 k
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nixin
Joined: Oct 08, 2003
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Arfi-Gorgona
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On 2003-10-15 00:29:40, drinker wrote:
Arfi, yes, more and more new phones will be offering video MMS and 16-bit colour screens.
The P800 is a a year old, which is positively geriatric in phone years. It is time for a fresh model, and that is the P900.
So if you want all these new features you are going to have to buy a new phone (it is not up to SE to give you all this for free).
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Drinker if they dont offer sisters mermaids in 16 bit colour too i think ill pass thnks.Buy them yourself this nice phones
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