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here is a real predicitve input (T9) for the P800 |
blue8300
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Just take a look at this : http://www.zicorp.com/eproducts/
It's brand new...
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MaThIbUs
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What is it?
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blue8300
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A T9 software...??? that's predictive text input
You type a letter of 2 and the phone write the rest of the word (if you want)
But the beta/trial version is only in english, other languages will be available for the full commercial version |
masseur
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Actually looking at the HTML manual it doesn't appear to be T9 at all.
T9 is the input method where you use the dialling keypad to enter the words using the characters shown on each digit and T9 tries to work out the word you are typing from the digit combinations. T9 stops you having to press the same digit several times (multitap) in order to enter the letter you want that is represented by that digit.
As yet I have not seen T9 that is predictive.
What this new product seems to be is a full text keyboard which predicts the full word from the first few characters you enter in much the same way that it works on the ipaq
T9 and predictive text are 2 quite separate things.
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MaThIbUs
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I knew what T9 is, but i was surprised the P900 didn't already have this feature.. hence my post. So i guess it's predictive text, as masseur so eloquently putted it, and not 'just' T9...
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blue8300
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On 2003-10-11 08:52:06, MaThIbUs wrote:
I knew what T9 is, but i was surprised the P900 didn't already have this feature.. hence my post. So i guess it's predictive text, as masseur so eloquently putted it, and not 'just' T9...
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I think you are confussing there.. the P900 has it, not the P800.
And like you pointed masseur, it's even much more powerfull then a simple T9 who use the keypad, this one you can use the real features and capacity of the P800 : without flip or with flip open , and all that with the virtual keyboard ! Now it will be even more easy to write a long text or email !
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I think the point I was making is that this is not T9 at all so your thread title is misleading and should be changed to something about predictive text input.
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blue8300
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ok..!! I changed the titel ! better? happy??? |
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masseur
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No need to get attitude. Yes that is better. Am I happy? yes, but not because of this! 
I only made the comment to avoid dissapointment (again) when people see the thread title and get excited only to find out it this nothing whatsoever to do with T9 because people have been wanting T9 on P800 since before the P800 was released.
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blue8300
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On 2003-10-11 09:35:34, masseur wrote:
No need to get attitude. Yes that is better. Am I happy? yes, but not because of this!
I only made the comment to avoid dissapointment (again) when people see the thread title and get excited only to find out it this nothing whatsoever to do with T9 because people have been wanting T9 on P800 since before the P800 was released.
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I just did some research...and :
In fact you were wrong, T9 is actually a product of Tegic Communications. T9 is just a trade name for software that allows predicitve text input...using a keyboard or other devices
Go to www.t9.com and you will see that is also availble for product like PocketPc what means not using a keypad...
From t9.com : "T9 Sloppy Type for Pocket PCs. Sloppy Type is the next generation of text input for touch screen devices. It combines the ease and familiarity of typing on a soft QWERTY keyboard with the power of T9’s predictive/adaptive text input, along with the capability of handling sloppy or haphazard touches to the keyboard." |
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Can SE Service Centres install t9 on P800s? Anyone ever tried? |
MaThIbUs
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If there's a firmware version with the T9 feature, but there isn't...
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lol! now you are grasping at straws just to try and prove me wrong. Of course I know who developed T9 as I have done several relevant contracts in the telecommunications industry and have had contact with tegic in relation to some work I did at cable and wireless.
I really didn't want to get into an argument and I am not sure why you do but picking a recent side product from tegic for pocketpc that is not even available yet and making an issue that because that exists T9 includes keyboard input is a very flimsy argument.
Everyone knows that T9 is exactly what I described in my first reply here and it is precicely that T9 which everyone wants in the P800. The fact that the same company wants to branch out and make a new product which really has no relation to the original T9 as implemented in hundreds of mobile phones has nothing to do with this argument, and of course they are going to include T9 in the name because thats what they are known for and its what they are famous for so people will instantly recognise it, but it is purely marketing.
Looking at their website this T9 sloppy type gets a brief mention while everything else about the site is to do with T9 as it is generally understood, including all the demos in all the languages available.
As a side note, T9 sloppy type is very much like the microsoft word facility called auto correct where you can enter words that you regularly miss spell and it corrects them for you and with the small virtual keyboard on the ipaq that might be worth closer inspection.
Anyway, lets just agree to disagree rather than continuing this as I am not the argumentative type really (to friendly for that!). Instead... let other people decide with replies here if it is really important to you.
edit: xtokiyax, no, T9 is not available in firmware for P800
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blue8300
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I am happy you just give me right ! lolll
That new T9 product will be much more powerfull there it not only use the small capability of of keypad but the much easyer and advanced possibility of a (virtual) keypad...
And like i said, you prove me also right that T9 is not a term used for predective text ONLY on keyboard, it 's just a Tradename for 1 specific application from 1 specific firm...
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Everyone knows that T9 is exactly what I described in my first reply here and it is precicely that T9 which everyone wants in the P800.
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Everyone?? just for you to know that SE said 60% of average P800 user don't have the flip on it...
It's then only 40% from the people who COULD be interrested in such a only keypad T9, and of that part, i wich to know who still write something with the keypad! loll 2%??
I have my flip and since 3 years (R380s) i never used the keypad to write something.. it 's soooo much easyer to use the virtual keyboard or the handwrittting. In fact that new product is the real one i expected!
If the P900 doesn't have that possibilty, then it is useless for the most of the users
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