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How long will Ericsson be part of SonyEricsson? |
dimitrivd
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With the Financial problems of Ericsson, the future of SonyEricsson is maybe sony buying the 50-50 share of Ericsson in the joint venture.
Read the article on CNET:
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handphones/0,39001719,39080302,00.htm
the article writes
Ericsson: "We will not put any more capital into the joint venture if it does not show results."
cnet: "there still remains a great deal of optimism about Sony Ericsson products, both from the consumers and the analysts. "
"hould Ericsson decide to halt its investment in the venture, Sony may well buy over a larger stake in the 50-50 entity. This would put the Japanese company in the driving seat of the partnership, but, essentially, the handset operation and products will remain intact."
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BeeWee
Joined: May 23, 2002
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What will SE be without the E...just S...Don`t like that at all.
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701
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Ericsson cant pull out anymore cuz there wont b a se without ericsson.u cant use a name without its owner.on the other hand if sony cuts off the$ flow ericsson mobile division is dead.
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BeeWee
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Soon the the whole f***ing lot of us will be stuck with n***a...
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jonbob.com
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Sony always nade rubbish phones anyway, before Ericsson came in. |
Aled
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Sony have ruined ericsson, they where always known for good design and leading the market. Now se seen to be just market followers with some of the worst design i've ever seen (the t610?)
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gzumba
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And the 4ever classic T68 was ericsson's swan song.
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baileynash
Joined: Dec 08, 2002
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Well.. I think their problem is design too. Need more nice looking phones, EG. T68/i, T200, R600, T28,T29. Nice looking phones, phones that appeal, not phones that make people go "ULGY".
This could really cause problems world wide. We don't want bloody Sony Phones... Ericsson gives it that kick, Ericsson is the real company in this. Not sony. Sony couldn't make an attractive mobile if an idea bit them fair on the arse.
There must be something sony and ericsson (not handset devision) can do. They both have plenty of money.
I think the big problem though, is the look of the phones.  |
bigjobs
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
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Interesting statement, "Sony ruined Ericsson"
Rescued them from oblivion, is the reality, their phones were utter poop, and were selling VERY badly.
My first mobile was a Sony, the analouge CMR111,a cute little palmphone with a flip down arm.
It was light years ahead of the competition, I will agree that they may have fooked up the styling, the new one's look very Sony 'RETRO', but the technology is all Sony and better for it. |
Jim
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Lets see the design of all the Sony products, how can we define it ??? well wonderfull, clean, nice whatever, Sony makes the best design, just see the Wega Theater, Television, MD, MP3 player, Clié, VAIO, .... All these products are just too beatifull so I don't think that Sony is really behind the design of  phones. My point of view .... |
(zendilar)
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Look my good Sony and Ericsson funs there is no need to fight because the two companies are grate we can see that in the past years.
It is true that Ericsson for a big time was the leader in mobile phones, do you remember the legentery GH388 tell me what company made a phone that time to stand next to it.
So the conclusion is that Ericsson is a strong company, some said in 1998-1999-2000 Ericsson was leading the 40% of the worldwide market, but there is something that they didn’t tell us (the 40% in telephonic senters ,servers and military radars).
I can ensure you for that, so the profit for Ericsson in mobile phones was small after the release of some Nokia models<>but unfortunately for the people that bought them and fortunately for Nokia the models soled mach peaces in the European market.
So this is the time that Sony comes into the game a coliseum enterprise with grate technology and height money resources but with nothing special to saw in the mobile phones section.
It was like the bride with all the qualifications (Ericsson) had married the rich husband (Sony).
My personal opinion is that it was necessary because two of my favourite companies are now one, and I believe that after the release of p800 there are many to wait for us.
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Jammers
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On 2003-05-02 18:35, bigjobs wrote:
Interesting statement, "Sony ruined Ericsson"
Rescued them from oblivion, is the reality, their phones were utter poop, and were selling VERY badly.
My first mobile was a Sony, the analouge CMR111,a cute little palmphone with a flip down arm.
It was light years ahead of the competition, I will agree that they may have fooked up the styling, the new one's look very Sony 'RETRO', but the technology is all Sony and better for it.
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Actually you will find that the majority of the technology is Ericsson. Sony are supposed to provide the style, marketing etc. Many of the features / design / internals are still largly ericsson. All of SE low range phones use the same software / menu system found in the t39, which originated in the t20. Evn the T610i menu design is very similar to the T68 |
baileynash
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I will agree that Ericsson is still the leader in technology. They do make mobile systems, so they know better than anyone how to optimizse the technology in the phones.
I think they just merged, because Sony phones looked like crap, but sony had money, something Ericsson didn't.
I think if sony was behind styling the phones, we would have nice phones. I have sony everything. MD Player, Discman, VCR, DVD, Plazma, Flat Screen, Monitor, Digital camera. They all look great, but the phones are my biggest concern at the moment.
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SonyBoy
Joined: Aug 31, 2002
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Whats wrong with Sony ?? this is the reason for why I bought my P800 and T68i. If it wasnt for Sony I wouldnt even think to touch Ericsson. And by the way the Z7 was a great handset at its time, much more than ericssons handsets thats for sure.
So guys- Sony is whats matters not Ericsson. |
Jonathan
Joined: Mar 22, 2003
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This article is from more than 6 months ago!
That is too far in the past to make any determinations on SE's future.
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Posted: 2003-05-02 13:02
