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Author The GPRS Experiment
Neural
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Posted: 2003-04-03 02:11
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no its not a film, but a possible solution to a problem

First off i dont want people to think the email based "blog" like system is written off nor shelfed. Its common while working on one thing to get ideas for another one while programming.

I simply had this idea today and instantly started researching and developing further into it. Internet technologys and Internet security are the two areas i excel in, and work as a lead programmer on a team doing this for a living. But even for me, i find GPRS exspensive to use and slow on certain webpages. Yes, its possible to disable images, but whats the web without images? Its boring and not as fun. I got looking further into the settings on the P800 to see how much control i have over everything; then i discovered i can enter my own proxy server.

So i located some old proxy server source code from a previous project, fired it up and enabled it, the good thing about this is i can monitor the complete data flow to see whats being sent and its normal to find intresting things using this method.

Anyway i entered in the custom proxy settings into my P800 and tried connecting to yahoo.com on my phone, the proxy accepted the phone and showed the request being sent, so all was good, but here is the "Experiment".

Basically if i can monitor the flow of data at PC Level i can alter the outputted "Response", so what does this mean minus the techie stuff? Put simply i can "compress" the web before your phone gets it hence cutting the costs on GPRS. For example, if you goto a website on your phone like www.yahoo.com and you are running my proxy it will see the request and my proxy will automatically optimize that website for the phone, for example it will take all the image files (designed for a pc with no costs or speed to worry about!) and convert all the images on ANY webpage to .jpg or even better .png, it will compress the HTML itself to keep size down. This literally could cut costs, once again you would need a PC on all the time (with an always on connection -- i.e. ADSL/Cable). It could also be used to monitor your GPRS Costings because it would know how much is being downloaded and you could control the costs before you went over the limit (and also totally stop your net access so you dont go over your limit!).

Along with this you could keep track of your complete history of GPRS transmissions (all webpages visted, etc).

This would only work on standard webpages and NOT WAP websites.

I am going to see if i can get a working version up for tomorrow (well not all the features of course, but at least compression on the web to see how much can be saved).

Anyone got comments/feedback, etc?
butterguy
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Joined: Jan 18, 2003
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Posted: 2003-04-03 02:46
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I for one am interested...someone posted the same thing before and it worked...so we know it can be done...iw anna know more about the extra features...i will definitely want to try it...let us know and give us a step by step?
dantec
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Posted: 2003-04-03 03:40
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Sounds really cool... good luck...

Anyone got any luck of optimizing wap for a t68i... cause on a t39m it went so much faster...

Also, i browse the web... real web not wap over bluetooth -> t68i from a palm os 5 handeld. I think my palm has a proxy setting, but would this setup work too ?

[ This Message was edited by: dantec on 2003-04-03 02:43 ]
lexus
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Posted: 2003-04-03 09:00
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I like this guy Neural, he`s genius
dantec
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Posted: 2003-04-03 10:43
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Any luck so far ?
Jensb
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Posted: 2003-04-03 11:14
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Someone else is working on the same idea http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4582
Andy_P
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Posted: 2003-04-03 12:31
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Yep I think these sort of ideas will have a major impact on the p8 browsing experience.

I have several servers running on a 2mbit connection and I am tempted to stick another box on there doing the same thing.
malcs
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Posted: 2003-04-03 12:34
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I want to do that as well
malcs pwns now.. go visit his drunk thread....

also esato rules...
oferlaor
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Posted: 2003-04-03 14:02
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Does anyone know if "normal" proxy servers actually attempt to use gzip compressed HTML?

I mean, my ISP has a proxy server. How can I tell if it supports gzip compression?
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