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Sony Xperia Rumors 2015 |
ascariss
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Not surprised, it was expecting with the weather sealing, something had to take a hit, and the benchmarks was it. |
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nodarsixar
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Sony is playing the name change game. There won't be a Z4 phone. The three flagships in fall will be the Z5 lineup.
https://twitter.com/xperialeak
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HxH
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On 2015-05-28 07:20:12, supercoolman wrote:
Mediatek is only catching up. more core doesn't mean it's better. look at AMD for example. Mediatek still has graphics department to catch up and they are trying hard to do that
we shall see when DX12 join the party with low-level api
On 2015-05-25 14:55:13, kabiluddin wrote:
They all join Apple. That's way Apple now has best auto mode in the smartphone camera world. Its super fast and reliable.
Apple got camera engineer from Nokia, mostly.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2015-05-29 10:19 ] SONY x Sexy x Sleek x Solid x Stunner x Stylish : Nozomi/Kagura with Love. |
-XYZ
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What Apple has, is money.
They're so cash-rich that they can quite literally buy everything they want or need. They want a camera engineer, they'll just pay more than any other company is willing or capable of offering. Job done.
That and their brand is the strongest in the world right now. Its almost impossible to go to a major (or even minor) city in the world and find someone who doesn't know what Apple or the iPhone is. |
Shino03
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I agree. At this very moment no one can challenge apple when it comes to Finances or probably on RND unless their would be a joint venture like JDI.
Truth be told, without android all the other major mobile companies are sh*t compared to apple.
Does anybody know what happened to this?
"New Sony Active Pixel Color Sampling
(APCS) sensor heading to a future
Xperia?"
or to the curved sensor.
Such a shame that Sony has so much potential.
Why not be the best in mobile cameras, put all their good tech there and charge premium for that. Be the apple for those who love quality on their mobile cameras (without it being chunky)
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2015-05-29 15:35 ] |
ascariss
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On 2015-05-29 15:50:01, Shino03 wrote:
Does anybody know what happened to this?
"New Sony Active Pixel Color Sampling
(APCS) sensor heading to a future
Xperia?"
or to the curved sensor.
Such a shame that Sony has so much potential.
Why not be the best in mobile cameras, put all their good tech there and charge premium for that. Be the apple for those who love quality on their mobile cameras (without it being chunky)
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2015-05-29 15:35 ]
Please don't get me started on the curved sensor. Sony used it in the selfie cam, perhaps as a test run but at this moment nothing about it making to an xperia. There was talk about it heading to an xperia, either this was false or Sony changed their mind maybe due to yield issues, who knows. Sony patented a curved full frame sensor, and this was rumoured to go into the RX1 successor or maybe it will go into some other full frame dslr, be it mirrorless or an alpha A99 mark 2. But I feel these curved sensors could have yield issues.
As for the other sensor, it seems it was not slated for mobile but cameras at least for now. The info is from November of last year, so it's been a while, perhaps Sony is still working on it to bring it to commercial use.
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]or-heading-to-a-future-xperia/
For now we only know or believe a new sensor is slated for the Z5, so hopefully samples leak soon or at least some prototypes with the new sensor. |
-XYZ
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Sensors will be released when they can reproducibly fabricate them with sufficiently high yields. No doubt Seony have some of the best imaging sensor R&D in the world, but it takes time to get from the research labs and into mass production. People complaining about Sony using the same sensor in the Z-series till now, well they won't use a new one until its ready to be produced at a scale large enough to be put in a smartphone.
Same applies to their APS-C sensors and FF sensors. Reading some comments on SAR give me cancer, given how impatient people are. Sensors are put in bodies when the sensors are ready for mass fab. |
supercoolman
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On 2015-05-29 11:11:10, HxH wrote:
On 2015-05-28 07:20:12, supercoolman wrote:
Mediatek is only catching up. more core doesn't mean it's better. look at AMD for example. Mediatek still has graphics department to catch up and they are trying hard to do that
we shall see when DX12 join the party with low-level api
On 2015-05-25 14:55:13, kabiluddin wrote:
They all join Apple. That's way Apple now has best auto mode in the smartphone camera world. Its super fast and reliable.
Apple got camera engineer from Nokia, mostly.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2015-05-29 10:19 ]
AMD went for Mantle, but Mantle hasn't go anywhere yet except force M$ to release DX12 with demo on NVIDIA platform. DX12 means every one has the same start point, so that won't change too much |
kurtdean
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Xperia Z3+ definitely improves over z3. Here's a comparison
Z3 http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/re[....]ria-z3/camera/gsmarena_015.jpg
Z3+ http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/re[....]z3plus/camera/gsmarena_102.jpg
I hate that sony camera always tend to be blurry at the right corners
Z3+ front facing camera looks impressive! http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/re[....]z3plus/camera/gsmarena_501.jpg
I hope they'll improve with the final retail unit
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Archdragoon
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Z3+ front camera is the reason for me to change from z1 to it.
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Archdragoon
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By the way
Z3 http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/re[....]ria-z3/camera/gsmarena_015.jpg
Z3+ http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/re[....]z3plus/camera/gsmarena_102.jpg
These picture are not capture at the same or almost same time (9 am and almost 1 pm)
I would like to see real comparison by take a picture by both phone in the same time.
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cu015170
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Decent results from the camera on the z3+ ... |
ascariss
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Colours are warmer on the plus but difficult to say if this is due to the conditions or the new algorithm. The file size is also larger on the Z3+. There is slightly more noise, minimally on the plus, but it is also slightly sharper than the regular Z3. Looking at their comparison photos in the same preview, it is evident that the camera is warmer on the plus and there is that little extra noise and sharpening. Oddly enough the file size is larger on the Z3 in the comparison photo, this is all manual 20.7. As for superior auto, only the warmer colour is evident in my opinion.
In reality, the sensor in the Z series is capable of a lot but is held back by the algorithm as always. I would be curious to see how RAW would turn out from the Z line. While I am satisfied with my Z3's photos. I wouldn't mind if Sony upped the file size more and gave us more manual control, setting ISO to 12800, and shutter speed. I would gladly give up RAW in order to have true manual control. |
kabiluddin
Joined: Mar 14, 2015
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OK, I don't know if you guys watched this video already but I find the photo quality of the Z3+ is really good. Definitely better than Z3. They must have improved their auto mode. Here is the link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMivCTlwwtY 
[ This Message was edited by: kabiluddin on 2015-05-30 20:59 ] |
>500
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Z3+ is no longer a rumored device 
Please discuss it here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=208155
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