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miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-09-15 12:28
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see what happens when you respond to him. he gets excited and responds and responds and responds and responds and responds and responds ... with the same old shiz

oh new page! please let's stop there

here, new fodder!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph5vg5NNsJo
Pureview 808 vs Z3
there's a comparison between z3's ISO 12800 and 808's 1600.
was set at auto and the 808 was configured to take good low light shots with longer exposure time. z3 can take a better picture if the device is kept still by using fireworks mode with at least a longer 1s exposure.


[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-09-15 12:10 ]
Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-09-15 12:51
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Excited?? Hardly 😂oh dear me
Phone?? What phone??
ascariss
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Posted: 2014-09-15 13:10
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On 2014-09-15 12:28:36, miromiromi wrote:
see what happens when you respond to him. he gets excited and responds and responds and responds and responds and responds and responds ... with the same old shiz

oh new page! please let's stop there

here, new fodder!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph5vg5NNsJo
Pureview 808 vs Z3
there's a comparison between z3's ISO 12800 and 808's 1600.
i don't think it's a good way to do that. z3 was set at auto and the 808 was configured to take good low light shots with longer exposure time. z3 can take a better picture by using fireworks mode with at least a 1s exposure.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-09-15 11:40 ]



I feel the nokia's photo are better, especially at iso 1600, I still do not get why sony will not add exposure time to the camera, if you could select exposure time and lower iso, the images would be cleaner. I feel somehow sony's camera team didn't do enough or they need to step up their game.

But then you comparing a 1/2.3 vs a 1/1.2 sensor is not a fair game, even if the nokia is older, it will still have more area to capture light and give better cleaner images.

Seriously wondering if the curved sensor will do anything in terms of image quality, so far nothing has been announced, perhaps something at photokina but probably not a production unit.

I wouldn't give a dam if Sony used a camera bulge, if this would mean sticking in a larger sensor, 2/3' or 1/1.2', I am all for it. If sony is really going to kill off their compact camera business and only have xperia, well it doesn't bode well so far and they need to step up their game.
miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-09-15 13:14
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^yup
sony can do the same or even better with longer exposure time.
about time to have that exposure time control!
better yet, copy everything in the lumia line
they already started copying features from other companies (with some enhancements) like samsung's smart gaze/view whatchamacallit, dual camera taking, even that group play idea, etc etc

why do it halfheartedly? just copy everything and let others copy what they have.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-09-15 12:15 ]
ascariss
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Posted: 2014-09-15 15:02
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Long exposure is nothing new and it is not copying, just integrating their compact camera tech into the xperia line.

There are no APIs in current android for full manual control, but samsung added them in their camera phone, Sony could have done the same, oh wait, I forgot, software was never a forte at Sony, nevermind.

edit, ha, forget 1/1.2 why not stick a 1 inch sensor inside a phone , absence of xenon flash though is odd.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/[....]-leica-cm1-android-cameraphone
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-09-15 19:14
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Come on even the HTC One M8 does 4 second exposure
Phone?? What phone??
nodarsixar
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Posted: 2014-09-15 21:55
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super cameraphone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz-9ThFyhdg
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goldenface
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Posted: 2014-09-15 22:15
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Great ad. I'm really being won over by the lens style camera. It's so versatile.

Oh, I'm preordering my Z3C this week.
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cu015170
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Posted: 2014-09-15 23:43
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The 808's color reproduction is not the best.. its very neutral/natural and it tends to look dull at times. You need to fiddle with the settings to get a more vibrant look out of them. Its very nice for post processing, but not the best for out of the box results.

Also, anyone that does a camera comp using the phones's display shouldn't be taken seriously. The 808's display is way too saturated to properly display images.

The camera on the Z3 compact is very good from what I saw on gsmarena, however comps to the 808 are far fetched.
emerson_shei
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Posted: 2014-09-16 00:03
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In fact, the camera of Z3 Compact is very good, has everything to be the best ever produced by Sony on an Android, but is miles behind in terms of quality when compared to the Nokia 808 PureView Pro !

Better than the Symbian PureView only new release from Panasonic:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fJiJfGY_tLA
miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-09-16 01:55
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On 2014-09-15 23:43:50, cu015170 wrote:
The 808's color reproduction is not the best.. its very neutral/natural and it tends to look dull at times. You need to fiddle with the settings to get a more vibrant look out of them. Its very nice for post processing, but not the best for out of the box results.

Also, anyone that does a camera comp using the phones's display shouldn't be taken seriously. The 808's display is way too saturated to properly display images.

The camera on the Z3 compact is very good from what I saw on gsmarena, however comps to the 808 are far fetched.


i think he compared the images not through the displays. it's shown in the video. i just snapped that part for his annotation.
cu015170
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Posted: 2014-09-16 05:54
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^ oh, my bad..

Either way, the difference between the two would be considered huge for some, and negligible for others.. its all perspective.
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Posted: 2014-09-16 12:39
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I was about to buy the Z1C when this one was announced, I think I will wait a bit. I might even sell the Lumia 930 (not up to my standards in camera/battery) and get this Z3C.

Still in the long journey looking for the 808 replacement

Edit:

Cu-, are you getting this one? I deffinitely might get it. Is supposed to be released at the end of this month here in UK, around £350. I will try to see if Amazon UK price-matches that (they have it currently for £450)
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Posted: 2014-09-16 13:48
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In a moment of weakness ,I went to the shop to extend my contract...
And I pre orderd the Z3 Compact (white) will get it on the first of october (+/-).
(with a Bluetooth headphones http://smb.store.sony.com/pre[....]s-Headphones?_t=pfm%3Dcategory )
Funny the guy there told me that i'm the first one in the list...
And what will I do now with my Z1C?
goldenface
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Posted: 2014-09-16 14:29
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Did you get the headphones as part of a promotion with the phone? They look pretty good.
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