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Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-09-14 16:17
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http://m.hotukdeals.com/deals/xperia-z3-compact-pre-order-for-347-99-delivered-handtec-1998462

Handtec £347 😀 I wouldn't mind this handset in white
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Shino03
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Posted: 2014-09-14 16:18
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All I can say is Sony and Samsung have different approaches again in terms of their camera. What pisses me off is that gsmarena is too biased towards Samsung. Yes, oversharpening makes the photos look nice in general but in the expense of details as shown below. (Look at the roof!)


It's pissing me off that people think in a glance that the samsung have the better picture quality when in reality the two can't be compared because of the different approach.



AND YES, sharper image does not always mean better looking photos. Now, I can conclude how unprofessional gsmarena is based from there conclusion that the alpha has the upper camera performance, they could have made it clearer and stated otherwise that it produces sharper photos with some lost of details
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Posted: 2014-09-14 16:27
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^i think the better term there is "cleaner" or "less noisy" photos. with sony's very obvious sharpening (on pixel peeping perspective), it's supposed to be the one with the sharper photos.

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I withdraw my unnecessary comment so we can avoid unnecessary discussions here. I apologize for the careless comment that made someone feel alluded to and feel the need to call me out even if I did not mention his name nor address him.
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Shino03
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Posted: 2014-09-14 16:33
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My bad. Sorry. Yes, you're correct the Z3C have the sharper images and the Alpha have the cleaner one due to overprocessing.
Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-09-14 17:01
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@miromiromi was that a dig at myself about buying a Sony and then ranting about it?? Well getting a new phone I won't be posting about it on here from now on because of people like yourself who make others feel unwelcome. Please keep your views about me to yourself
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admad
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Posted: 2014-09-14 18:06
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And who cares what reviewer say? GSMArena were probably used to shit quality from Sony, they didn't notice a difference?:D I never read a conclusion, because the user alone has to make one, I really don't care what they say about camera quality, I just go there and look for myself, then press my own judgement. To be fair, they were always saying good words about Z, Z1 and Z2 camera while it was pretty shitty.

As for camera quality, Z3C is of course better than Alpa, for photos it's even better than S5, now Sammy only leads in Video quality, but by far less margin than with Z2.
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Posted: 2014-09-14 18:08
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alpha definitely doesn't take better picture, not even in the same league. Look at all the missing details. Image softening OR sharpening can be done later but details won't magically appear.
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Posted: 2014-09-14 19:05
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Another Btekt video. This time against the iPhone 5s
: http://youtu.be/s5HptRw9uNQ (iPhone 5s)
: http://youtu.be/LbEQfiWjXrU (Z3 Compact)
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Posted: 2014-09-14 22:05
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Only phony enthusiasts would say that details in pictures don't matter and that "cleaner" (smeary) shots is the way to go.

So Sony got 20.7MP, srhink the size down to 12MP and you will see a huge difference between Alpha and Sony .
Some people are so funny with their silly arguments.
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Posted: 2014-09-14 23:44
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if detail don't matter then we might as well stick to 2 MP camera for eternity.
Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-09-15 01:47
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doministry
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Posted: 2014-09-15 10:28
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On 2014-09-15 01:47:29, Bonovox wrote:

On 2014-09-14 22:05:32, McKinley wrote:
Only phony enthusiasts would say that details in pictures don't matter and that "cleaner" (smeary) shots is the way to go.

So Sony got 20.7MP, srhink the size down to 12MP and you will see a huge difference between Alpha and Sony .
Some people are so funny with their silly arguments.



You shouldn't have to shrink photos down most people won't. I have yet to see anything stunning from Sony cameras on any of these Xperia devices. I have a very fussy eye about detail & Samsung have done alot better than Sony of late.


There are nice Sammy forums around. Please use it.

As for shrinking, 99% of people watch it fullscreen on the PC. Which is essentially shrinking it, nobody's examining details. It's like I would buy Avedon's album and instead of experiencing his art I'd examine the milimeter details.

If you'd ever knew what to actually do with the device and what to use it for, you'd know.
But you're clueless whiner who loves to waste others time here and not having any good reason or experience to discuss.
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-09-15 11:54
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[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2014-10-10 03:09 ]
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Posted: 2014-09-15 12:09
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On 2014-09-15 11:54:00, Bonovox wrote:
No I am not clueless I know a lot more about photography than you know but as usual you judge others. You just cannot accept any sort of critical view about Sony you always get aggressive at others. Am sick and tired of you



If i read your history comments, man o man your so sammie boy, so go to your beloved sammie site and cry
Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-09-15 12:16
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I am not a Sammy boy I've had all brands I currently don't own any Samsung. You see you lot you compare Samsung v Sony photo quality in these so called forums saying oh it's so much better than Samsung. But if anyone else dares to comment and say Samsung is better photo quality you all get so defensive and start shouting . It's ok for you to compare but nobody else is allowed to say a word it's pathetic. I previously said I wouldn't mind one of these it's a nice device but that doesn't mean am going to buy one. As usual I get hit by a sarcastic comment by miromiromi. Jesus it's just a phone take it on the chin your all such cry babies when someone debates how good or not something is about Sony. Truth is Sony image processing is done way better by many other manufacturers who use their sensors.
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