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miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-04-09 23:51
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@josephnero

there's a separate review of the camera. it says that the galaxy s4 camera is better.
http://translate.googleuserco[....]rhjqXN8p6h4mGRLxOUSvU5GnmI1Heg

However, there is no perfect products and the Xperia Z2 has its flaws. For example, not everyone will like is not very convenient, angular body, and algorithms have taken to improve: the photos are better than HTC, but worse than the Samsung.


@Lightspeed_x

many sites mention it appears to work only with superior auto. the shots taken their are in manual mode (the photo taker had the option to set the camera to the best possible settings but he/she apparently didn't)
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josephnero
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Posted: 2014-04-10 00:47
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@miromiromi
with all respect i own a S4 and camera is average.not trying to be a fanboy here but i don't accept it.
miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-04-10 01:06
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just quoting the translation of the site. just wanted to point that out. of course i still prefer sony that's why i'm raising those questions about their use of the 8MP manual mode instead of shooting in superior auto.

their comparison uses only the 8MP manual mode on the z2 but the s4 uses the full 13MP resolution. i'm not sure if the 8MP z2 photo uses the full sensor potential just like the pixel binned 8MP in superior auto. smells like bias but i'm not sure.
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randomuser
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Posted: 2014-04-10 05:41
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8 mp pics = Superior Auto in most cases as only Manual mode allows 20 MP

Anyway, 8 MP Z1/Z2/Z1C shots are always better quality than 20 MP shots. All Z1 owners would confirm this.

As for the sites, different sites have different opinions so it's not really worth arguing over their opinions. On one hand you have sites that praise the Z1/Z1c cameras and call them among the best cameras available there are others like HitechMail.ru (blind test posted few pages back) which show Z2 to be the worst camera even behind Nexus 5.

Surely most of these sites' opinions are far from reality so let's not pay much attention to these.

miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-04-10 06:09
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what i know is superior auto is only in 16:9 aspect ratio, not 4:3. the one on hitech... is in 4:3 so i'm wondering if it's in superior auto despite being in 8MP resolution.
randomuser
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Posted: 2014-04-10 07:34
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Right. That's true, so those pics are taken with 8MP manual mode not superior Auto. That's not really a bad thing though, as Manual 8MP pics are most of the times much better than crappy superior Auto.

There are numerous posts showing the difference between 8MP SA and 8MP manual on XDA and elsewhere.
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-04-10 08:34
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/04/09/xperia-z2-uk-stock-update-cpw-phones4u-and-vodafone-expected-to-ship-next-week/

UK stock update
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Sassho
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Posted: 2014-04-10 14:34
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On 2014-04-09 22:08:32, AbhiD999 wrote:

And why should one believe that Russian review OR You instead of DxoMark results?! ! !
Give me one single reason !

Money.....lot a money for paid review


On 2014-04-09 21:59:32, dalmac wrote:

My Russia isn't great (and neither is Google translate) so where does it say that the camera is crap?

I say this. Are you blind mate? Terrible lens , terrible postprocessing. With one word - C R A P



On 2014-04-09 23:04:41, dalmac wrote:

Dissipating the heat to other parts of the phone makes perfect sense.


Yep...so this Sony Singapore advised consumers not to record 4K video
miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-04-10 14:40
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hey sassho, are you quoting yourself quoting yourself?
CrownedAkuma
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Posted: 2014-04-10 14:44
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On 2014-04-10 14:40:06, miromiromi wrote:
hey sassho, are you quoting yourself quoting yourself?


I think he really get the post wrong LOL....
Anyway I trust more the results of DxO, the photos shot from soulreaver99 and on other sites than that russian site
@Sassho
Anyway Sony Singapore did not stated not to shoot 4K video... but to shoot them few minutes at a time!

“We are aware of some users encountering issues when shooting 4K video for extended periods. Shooting movies in high quality 4K resolution can make significant demands on your phone’s processor and battery life, as well as phone memory. Therefore for the best experience, we recommend you install a high capacity SD card (Xperia Z2 can take a card up to 128GB) and shoot 4K video in short bursts of no longer than a few minutes at a time.“

This is the same reason why Samsung capped the 4k shooting at 5 minutes! to avoid overheating... this is normal, this are phones with a width of 7mm...! how could they not overheat with such a demanding task?

And also if the phone overheat the solution is simple... shoot 4k video underwater! that way it will surely not overheat

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Sassho
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Posted: 2014-04-10 15:15
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On 2014-04-10 14:44:33, CrownedAkuma wrote:
can make significant demands on your phone’s processor and battery life, as well as phone memory.


Change demands on damage - this is hidden truth Hermetic phone body really overheats.
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-04-10 15:22
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Blimey,overheating just give the Sony a dip it'll be fine then. When i had the Galaxy Note 3 and filmed 4K video it never even broke a sweat. Come on Sony sort it out
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dalmac
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Posted: 2014-04-10 15:29
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On 2014-04-10 14:34:40, Sassho wrote:


On 2014-04-09 23:04:41, dalmac wrote:

Dissipating the heat to other parts of the phone makes perfect sense.


Yep...so this Sony Singapore advised consumers not to record 4K video


Your statement seems unrelated to mine. Your original statement was that liquid cooling technology makes no sense "because the heat stays inside the phone".

If you can't see how liquid cooling would help to dissipate the heat (on this device or any other) then there's not much I can do for you
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josephnero
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Posted: 2014-04-10 15:57
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nothing unusal .Bonovox stating wrong facts again. even my S4 overheats after ten minutes of FHD recording.my friends S5 also overheats while playing 4k vid he recorded.(he had recorded it before).check some youtube vids for temperature of different devices.samsung phones always get hotter than others specially exynos versions
why do you think samsung capped it to 5 minutes in note 3?give us a reason plz.
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Sassho
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Posted: 2014-04-10 16:05
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On 2014-04-10 15:29:41, dalmac wrote:
If you can't see how liquid cooling would help to dissipate the heat (on this device or any other) then there's not much I can do for you.

Are you smoking Bro ?(joke ) It is possible Z2 have liquid cooling, but it will not be effective if the heat does not appear outside. As an example - Close the vents on your laptop and see what happens. Wait iFixit review.
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