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-XYZ
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On 2014-09-23 19:53:20, Wintermute wrote:
I'm not sure I'd agree that Sony needs to compete with Apple.
How can you not compete with Apple?
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cu015170
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On 2014-09-23 19:53:20, Wintermute wrote:
I'm not sure I'd agree that Sony needs to compete with Apple. I think Google needs to compete with Apple, but as far as Sony is concerned, they're competing with other Android OEMs. The reason is because most people's first decision is the OS they want. When they want a new phone, they first decide whether they want an Android or iOS device, and only then do they start comparing different models. If this weren't true, HTC and Sony would be the top two manufacturers, since both companies produce nicer hardware than Apple (my opinion). I don't think Sony is going to sway many Apple customers to switch regardless of how nice their hardware is. It's up to Google to make Android the best, most attractive OS it can be, and to gain enough mindshare to start turning Apple users.
Google does compete with Apple, and they do so very well.. by using OEMs like Sony and Samsung of course  |
Gitaroo
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I see a lot of people with Z ultra too, the phone at 400-500 USD is basically nexus level of pricing except for its premium built quality and screen and high end Soc. If Sony is looking at the post price drop sales as a success, they know that the large screen phone market is there then that explain those T2 Ultra and crap that came out after in 6". They set a minimum profit margin and then they are the a phone around the price, thats why non of the new one have specs even comparable to Z Ultra. If they are going to build another Z ultra like high end phone, its almost guaranteed that they will compromise the camera or something again for extra profit, and the phone will still be expensive as well. Its Sony afterall, they want to be like Nintendo and apple, where profitability is their number 1 priority. 5"+ level seems to be the only class they can be competitive in pricing and specs. Unlike those chinese company, they rather go for lower sales and higher profit per unit than larger sales and lower profit per unit. With devices like One plus one and even nexus being around theres no room for their mid end to survive. |
Wintermute
Joined: Jan 11, 2014
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On 2014-09-23 21:58:05, -XYZ wrote:
On 2014-09-23 19:53:20, Wintermute wrote:
I'm not sure I'd agree that Sony needs to compete with Apple.
How can you not compete with Apple?
Maybe try reading the rest of my post for the answer. It's in there.
But, in case you're too lazy, I'll spell it out again here: to make it very simple, you can TRY to compete with Apple, but as long as you're running Android, you're not doing it very effectively. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, those people who are looking to buy an Apple product are NOT looking at anything running Android. They exclude them at the very beginning when they decide they want iOS, or when they go with iOS because of all the money they've spent on iOS apps. A similar thing has prevented Microsoft from making any progress at all for the last 4 years with Windows Phone: it doesn't matter how good the hardware or software is, they just got in the game too late. By the time there was any decent WP hardware, everybody had already committed to either iOS or Android.
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ascariss
Joined: Apr 06, 2013
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Don't think Sony has a chance with Apple, they are the first to have a curved LCD. Sony will definitely have to add bending technology to their next flagship, it is the only way to compete. Damn
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xperiazultra
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
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On 2014-09-24 08:23:52, Wintermute wrote:
On 2014-09-23 21:58:05, -XYZ wrote:
On 2014-09-23 19:53:20, Wintermute wrote:
I'm not sure I'd agree that Sony needs to compete with Apple.
How can you not compete with Apple?
Maybe try reading the rest of my post for the answer. It's in there.
But, in case you're too lazy, I'll spell it out again here: to make it very simple, you can TRY to compete with Apple, but as long as you're running Android, you're not doing it very effectively. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, those people who are looking to buy an Apple product are NOT looking at anything running Android. They exclude them at the very beginning when they decide they want iOS, or when they go with iOS because of all the money they've spent on iOS apps. A similar thing has prevented Microsoft from making any progress at all for the last 4 years with Windows Phone: it doesn't matter how good the hardware or software is, they just got in the game too late. By the time there was any decent WP hardware, everybody had already committed to either iOS or Android.
[ This Message was edited by: Wintermute on 2014-09-24 07:27 ]
When you compete with Apple, you become the top Android OEM. What is more to say? |
xperiazultra
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On 2014-09-24 10:20:58, ascariss wrote:
Don't think Sony has a chance with Apple, they are the first to have a curved LCD. Sony will definitely have to add bending technology to their next flagship, it is the only way to compete. Damn
Lol. Shame the feature is ip6 and ip6+ exclusive. |
miromiromi
Joined: Jul 25, 2013
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it's really unfair that even apple is blatantly copying that feature from sony.
have they no shame?
this is really unacceptable! they even copied those rounded corners!
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-no-reason-claim-users_id51383
and of course i'm kidding.
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alexander87
Joined: Oct 27, 2006
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Samsung payroll goons doing their thing.
Common sense tells you that there are some MURICA phat ppl placing their phone on the butt pocket, nothing more, heat is not an issue.
There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it I have now surpassed.
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xperiazultra
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
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On 2014-09-24 12:04:08, miromiromi wrote:
it's really unfair that even apple is blatantly copying that feature from sony.
have they no shame?
this is really unacceptable! they even copied those rounded corners!
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-no-reason-claim-users_id51383
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-09-24 11:06 ]
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One User states this. Funny actually. Evil forces trying to bend people's Sony phones. I would give it credit if it was seen on the majority of the handsets. Lame claim |
u2jewel
Joined: Jul 04, 2013
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OT, but was curious
I was watching the season premier of The Blacklist season 2, and the trend continues because I think I saw the Z3 in black. Once playing music on the table and the other time when the phone was handed over to the man on the stretcher.
Any other sony product placements I missed?
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Luca-S
Joined: Sep 11, 2012
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My old Xperia Z1 that i sold to my cousin have almost 1 year now and it still perfectly straight.
Funny... I just saw that pic but a lot of complains about Z1... With the same pic 
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-XYZ
Joined: Jul 26, 2012
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Metal is a largely malleable, inelastic substance. If left unreinforced, it will bend.
Plastic will flex in an elastic manner and return to its original shape. If flexed too far, it will break.
Physics.
iPhones being exceedingly thin, and with no internal reinforcements to speak of, will bend rather quickly. |
xperiazultra
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On 2014-09-24 21:15:35, -XYZ wrote:
Metal is a largely malleable, inelastic substance. If left unreinforced, it will bend.
Plastic will flex in an elastic manner and return to its original shape. If flexed too far, it will break.
Physics.
iPhones being exceedingly thin, and with no internal reinforcements to speak of, will bend rather quickly.
As a metallurgist i agree. Apple should have reinforced it from the inside at least. |
tors
Joined: Jul 22, 2004
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On 2014-09-24 22:10:05, xperiazultra wrote:
On 2014-09-24 21:15:35, -XYZ wrote:
Metal is a largely malleable, inelastic substance. If left unreinforced, it will bend.
Plastic will flex in an elastic manner and return to its original shape. If flexed too far, it will break.
Physics.
iPhones being exceedingly thin, and with no internal reinforcements to speak of, will bend rather quickly.
As a metallurgist i agree. Apple should have reinforced it from the inside at least.
I agree with these Sony Xperia rumours  |
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