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goldenface
Sony Xperia Z3 Compact
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Posted: 2014-07-27 14:18
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Good reasoning vivftp.

The fact that Sony is updating its flagships every six months means we're getting the latest tech every six months, rather than each year, which means the tech is more up to date and Sony is able to refine their Z series design quicker.

On the other hand the differences between each Z flagship are smaller. Which is why the Z3 won't seem like any type of real upgrade from the Z2. To me it's more design changes than anything else. I'll reserve judgment until the announcement.
MartenR
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Posted: 2014-07-27 17:05
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I'm almost sure that Sony will add wireless charging in either Z3 or 1H 15 flagship. In the end of 2013 Nikkei reported that Sony and Rohm are working on a wireless charging solution which cuts the charging time to half(1 hour) and it will be commercialized in H2 14. I think it worths the wait. Anyways here's my REALISTIC wishlist for Z3: 1- fast wireless charging 2- height less than 146 mm and width less than 69 mm 3- More refined UI (smoother and less cartoonish) 4- Better speakers 5- Less reflective display. 6- Even longer battery life 7-Superior auto at 13 Mpx at least.
To what extent do you think my wish will be realized?
vivftp
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Posted: 2014-07-27 17:23
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Supposed pics of the Z3 rear side taken from the factory floor

http://wccftech.com/sony-xper[....]es-leak-mass-production-start/
DexterMoser
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Posted: 2014-07-27 18:48
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On 2014-07-27 14:18:27, goldenface wrote:
... means we're getting the latest tech every six months, rather than each year, which means the tech is more up to date ...

S801 is not really up to date nor the latest tech by that time.
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MartenR
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Posted: 2014-07-27 19:49
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@vivftp It's not Z3's back but Z2's. Look at the first picture; On the left side of the yellow box it's clearly stated "sirius panel back". Sirius is Z2 not Z3.
ascariss
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Posted: 2014-07-27 20:34
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On 2014-07-27 18:48:35, DexterMoser wrote:

On 2014-07-27 14:18:27, goldenface wrote:
... means we're getting the latest tech every six months, rather than each year, which means the tech is more up to date ...

S801 is not really up to date nor the latest tech by that time.



Well if you want the latest that would be the 805 I guess but it doesn't ship with a modem so a negative in my books.

Best option is to wait for the Z4 with the 810 and hopefully the new curved sensor.
Xajel
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Posted: 2014-07-28 00:22
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I really hope Sony change their 2 flags per year policy..

For me the best option will be introducing the flagship in H1 or mid-year, and after 6 month ( = H2 or last/early year ) will introduce a major software update... this does not mean the new phone will not come with it's own unique software features, but the mid year update should come with all what the customers and review sites wanted from the software side ( except major software bugs and security issues )...

The software update should come to all high-ends ( including the tablet, mini and Ultra if there's one )...

this approach I think will give Sony more time to refine the software more as they will not be bothered by making a software for a new device...
Away
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Posted: 2014-07-28 01:22
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The issue is that you don't get sales by announcing a software upgrade 6 months later. So, a new device it is. As long as Sony give good, long lasting software support, it's only a positive for consumers.

Who remembers the Motorola X, more specifically its chip?Sony have to make similar custom deals with vendors to get above the competition. Before someone says they don't have the buying power, Sony does. Like they've (annoyingly) said, they use the same chips across the high end range. In total, that's a LOT of devices sold. And, like we've all noticed, there are many mid-end devices all using the same chips too. Perhaps they could even do custom stuff there?


And Sony HAVE to stop relying on Qualcomm. Less than a 10% upgrade in what, 18 months when the s810 finally releases? And remember how we all mocked the earlier octa-core vendors for having each cluster of cores running at the same frequency? Qualcomm too will suffer from that issue, LOL. Again, with a custom solution, this wouldn't have been an issue.
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Posted: 2014-07-28 03:15
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Sony is irrelevant in lagdroid space with 2% market-share. Doing 2 flagships per year with no carrier deals in the US is suicidal in all and every aspect. It's just plain out stupid, like most things Sony do nowadays. If they don't offer a WP solution next year, they will truly champion the crown of stupidity among Japanese high-tech corps.
Away
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Posted: 2014-07-28 04:24
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On 2014-07-28 03:15:53, Ebato wrote:
Sony is irrelevant in lagdroid space with 2% market-share. Doing 2 flagships per year with no carrier deals in the US is suicidal in all and every aspect. It's just plain out stupid, like most things Sony do nowadays. If they don't offer a WP solution next year, they will truly champion the crown of stupidity among Japanese high-tech corps.


Pretty sure that killed any credibility you might have otherwise had...
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Posted: 2014-07-28 05:33
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On 2014-07-28 01:22:47, Away wrote:
And Sony HAVE to stop relying on Qualcomm. Less than a 10% upgrade in what, 18 months when the s810 finally releases? And remember how we all mocked the earlier octa-core vendors for having each cluster of cores running at the same frequency? Qualcomm too will suffer from that issue, LOL. Again, with a custom solution, this wouldn't have been an issue.


Not that Qualcomm should not be publicly flogged for dragging their feet on the Krait upgrade for so long, but the A57 cores in the S810 are much faster than the A15 (which is faster than Krait by a hair). Compared to A15, you're looking at roughly a 25-50% performance increase.
Ebato
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Posted: 2014-07-28 06:39
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I've had none to begin with. Yet, it does not make what I said any less valid or less true.

On 2014-07-28 04:24:00, Away wrote:

On 2014-07-28 03:15:53, Ebato wrote:
Sony is irrelevant in lagdroid space with 2% market-share. Doing 2 flagships per year with no carrier deals in the US is suicidal in all and every aspect. It's just plain out stupid, like most things Sony do nowadays. If they don't offer a WP solution next year, they will truly champion the crown of stupidity among Japanese high-tech corps.


Pretty sure that killed any credibility you might have otherwise had...
cableguy
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Posted: 2014-07-28 10:28
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China seems to be where the money is at now, look at the results from Apple they made huge revenue there last year.
Sony would be better off making money there than in the US where Apple have such a strong hold and Samsung spend $$$ on advertising, operators will mainly sell phones that people want, if people see XX amount of ads for Samsung a lot of them will want those phones.
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Posted: 2014-07-28 11:22
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On 2014-07-28 06:39:00, Ebato wrote:
I've had none to begin with. Yet, it does not make what I said any less valid or less true.


You're right in that you had no credibility to begin with. Doesn't change how wrong you are.
Sony needs to release a WP handset to become relevant?
Sony has less than 2% of the android phone market?
Do you have proof of this, or are you just chatting shit?
MartenR
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Posted: 2014-07-28 11:23
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OT Now that there's thee days left to Sony's Q2 financial results announcement, how many units do you think they sold in in Q2? What is your prediction for net and operating profit? I guess around 9.8 million units with around $10 million net loss and a brake even op profit.
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