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RobMa
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Posted: 2014-07-17 10:29
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In addition to the prototype maiaramdan mentioned I know there was another Z3 prototype. It was almost identical in size to the Z2. The form factor was very similar to T but without its inconsistencies(stick out headphone jack and microSD, SIM and micro USB port) because the curves were a lot less exaggerated especially in front half. The front half (around 4mm) was made of glass and the rear half of the phone was made of aluminium. The aluminium back was longer by like 0.2mm both on top and bottom of the phone and there were small cracks there which were stereo speakers. The bottom crack also served as notification light. the power button was located on the thinnest part of the phone. The design was canceled because it was almost impossible to open and repair so any manufacturing flaw (like what happened with Z2) would have been catastrophic financially it was also very expensive to make.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 10:33
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@Xajel:
According to the last information the MT6595 supports camera resolutions above 20 MP.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 10:36
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On 2014-07-17 09:14:02, HxH wrote:
A minute of demo video 480fps 1080p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j0gCXjHuKQ



This is actually pretty impressive and I am curious if the 13MP sensor is the one from the old Z or an upgraded new sensor design. Given the option of 20 vs 13MP at 1/2.3, I'd rather have the 13MP version than the 20MP.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 10:52
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MediaTek vs Sony Image Processing - Same Sensor, …: http://youtu.be/qtIPvcPM8k0

Mobilegeeks has some nice videos about the launch event of the new MediaTek in China!
Reference design smartphone features 20MP with 1080p 480fps mode.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 12:29
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@RobMa And how do you know about this other prototype?
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Posted: 2014-07-17 12:39
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Comparing the device to a ZL? That's like comparing last generation BMW M3 to this year's BMW M4.

They should compare it to the Z2, or Z1 at least. As for the actual set up, not sure how perfect it is, a better real world set up in a real room with a real window would have been a better choice.

I am curious how the 2K resolution vs the full HD is also making things looks different on the screens on the device, where Nicole states the mediatek has a sharper image of the 'window'.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 13:19
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^Yeah, that's kind of dumb. It also could be the result of X reality or tge shitty display of the ZL itself.
But I think in the video she mentions that both devices use the same sensor, which makes it a fair comparison.


In the description it says the 1080p 480fps Mode is only available with the 20MP IMX220 Sony Sensor, that's nice!
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Posted: 2014-07-17 13:40
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It would have to be the same 13MP sensor but from the article on mobilegeeks the sensor on the mediatek device is the 20MP one

http://www.mobilegeeks.com/me[....]-reference-design-hands-video/

The device itself actually looks pretty decent for a reference design, with what looks like a really nice 5 inch, 2560 x 1440 (2K) screen that looks visually stunning. The right side edge has dual SIM slots and a microSD slot plus micro USB, all in very visible positioning with the emphasis clearly on ease-of-access. The rear facing camera features a Sony 20.7MP sensor which, thanks to the new MediaTek platform is capable of shooting 1080p video at 480fps with Super-Slow Motion offering 1/16 slow motion playback.


So unless mediatek decided to make 2 prototypes, one sporting the 20MP and the other 13MP then that is fine, but from the article it seems there is only one prototype with the 20MP sensor and this is what we see in the video.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 14:07
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On 2014-07-17 13:19:31, DexterMoser wrote:
^Yeah, that's kind of dumb. It also could be the result of X reality or tge shitty display of the ZL itself.
But I think in the video she mentions that both devices use the same sensor, which makes it a fair comparison.


In the description it says the 1080p 480fps Mode is only available with the 20MP IMX220 Sony Sensor, that's nice!



I wonder if we'll see a high end Sony with that MediaTek CPU, Qualcomm better make that Snapdragon 810 damn good as MediaTek are fast becoming a major threat.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 15:12
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Apparently there's a 13MP and a 20MP version of the Sony IMX220. Both on a 1/2.3" sensor size.
The 13MP one is rumored to be on the the new iPhone 6. See here:
http://www.macrumors.com/2014[....]ny-13-megapixel-imx220-sensor/

And the 20MP one should be on the Z3 according to Macrumors or their source.
Thus no 1/2.4" sensor for Z3?

Did I miss something or is this rumor really new?
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Posted: 2014-07-17 16:18
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If the 13MP sensor is 1/2.3, it is still bigger than the one in the old ZL which I feel is 1/3.0 just like the old Z. This is about 1.5 times the surface area and can catch more light and produces better images.

I feel there was no 1/2.4 sensor being produced or developed, would make no sense to make it that much smaller than comparing a 1/2.3 and 1/2.5 sensor size, it is so miniscule that nothing would be gained by making the sensor smaller. There is 0.5 mm difference in width between 2.3 and 2.5, and this would be even smaller with 2.3 and 2.4.

1/2.3
6.17 mm x 4.55 mm, area is 28.50

1/2.5
5.76 mm x 4.29 mm, area is 24.70

There is a 1/2.45 type sensor from sony, and this is from may of last year.
http://www.dpaonthenet.net/ar[....]n-one-colour-block-camera.aspx

but at 13MP, not what would have been destined for the Z3.

As for the new 13MP sensor for apple, well who knows, wouldn't be surprised, Sony does make some of the best camera hardware and sensors but somehow screws up it's software.

Only thing which can differentiate the Z3 now is the camera and proper software, because honestly hardware wise, nothing can be improved for the time being (please no posting about 2k displays or the SD805).
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Posted: 2014-07-17 20:36
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13Mpix @ 1/2.3 makes perfect sense for the iPhone 6 ..

they said that they will be going for bigger pixels with the new device..

1/2.3 divided by 13Mpix gives you 1.9 micron pixels.. bigger than the Nokia N8's 1.75

Combined with mature jpeg processing + decent optics and we might have something to talk about
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Posted: 2014-07-17 22:27
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^I'm kind of afraid of the new iPhone(s). I mean if it really turns out that way the rumor say, I am really impressed!! (but I won't buy it.) Therfore Im afraid it will take too much sales from Android manufactures like Sony, and that loss will only be good for Samsung and Apple.

I wonder how those hardcore 3.5" ehm I mean 4" is the ultimate screen size Apple fans will react...
The only option for them would be the Z3 Compact!


Btw what sensor does the Z2 exactly use? It's not the IMX220, isn't it??
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Posted: 2014-07-17 23:37
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@DexterMoser I think those 3.5~4" fans will have to stay with the 5S. Z3 Compact is rumored to have a 4.6 inch screen, and the iPhone 6, suposely 4.7 and 5.5" models.
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Posted: 2014-07-18 01:27
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On 2014-07-17 23:37:30, Felimenta97 wrote:
@DexterMoser I think those 3.5~4" fans will have to stay with the 5S. Z3 Compact is rumored to have a 4.6 inch screen, and the iPhone 6, suposely 4.7 and 5.5" models.



If the Z3c is the same or close to the same dimensions as the Z1c, then it'll be smaller than the iP6 based on the prototypes I've seen.
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