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DACHA
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Posted: 2013-10-22 19:28
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Xperia Z1S is most likely an upgraded Z1 and should come withe the 8974AB SoC. It is like an iPhone 5 to 5S upgrade or an Xperia Arc to Arc S upgrade.
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Posted: 2013-10-22 20:49
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On 2013-10-22 10:01:50, amirprog wrote:
My sensible 2014 announcements prediction for the high end devices:
January CES: Z1 Ultra, Tablet Z1
February MWC: Z2

somewhere between: Z2 mini
July: Z2 Ultra
September IFA: Z3
somewhere after: Z3 mini

It makes the most sense to me. What are your thoughts?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-10-22 09:03 ]



I think Sony will Release: ( Z1 Mini & Tablet Z1 )

and Xperia Z2 might goes for MWC ..

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Posted: 2013-10-22 21:57
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@xperiacute
then you mostly agree with me. they got to save the Z2 for MWC, the best for last. and they barely just releasing Z1 in the world, CES would be too early for Z2.
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Posted: 2013-10-23 00:07
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On 2013-10-22 19:28:55, DACHA wrote:
Xperia Z1S is most likely an upgraded Z1 and should come withe the 8974AB SoC. It is like an iPhone 5 to 5S upgrade or an Xperia Arc to Arc S upgrade.


is there already a soc better than S800?
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Posted: 2013-10-23 00:17
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Both are S800 SoC but the 8974AB is clocked higher.

MSM8974: Adreno 330 @ 450Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 800Mhz

MSM8974AB: Adreno 330 @ 550Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 933Mhz

At CES Qualcomm will announce the next generation SoC which will be based on 20nm or maybe even 14nm tech.
Higher clock speed, less power consumption and most likely other improvements as well.
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Posted: 2013-10-23 01:47
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AB is a better bin, if I'm not wrong.
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Posted: 2013-10-23 03:05
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On 2013-10-23 00:17:12, DACHA wrote:
At CES Qualcomm will announce the next generation SoC which will be based on 20nm or maybe even 14nm tech.
Higher clock speed, less power consumption and most likely other improvements as well.


APQ8084 / Adreno420 maybe?
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rency0722
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Posted: 2013-10-23 03:08
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I just wonder why Sony can't utilize all those features coming from the new Nokia Lumia 1520. All those RAW capture, refocus tech, and manual controls, it seems Sony just can't give all the best it can on one stage.

In fact, I'm weighing off facts like Sony has the camera division, selling PNS to professional cameras, and Nokia's not. For Nokia, it's easy to just develop a software, or even utilizing most of hardware when it comes to their phones just because they don't have a camera division that will make those sales dive down versus mobile.

Ever wonder why Sony didn't include S-Master tech on Xperia? This is for avoiding the conflict between sales of Walkman. Just like it's camera.

For Sony, it's just like they are capable of. They have research and innovation, they can, but they just don't do it. When they do it, it's too late.

I suggest, Sony can do upgrade most of their PNS to one step higher, focusing on larger-sensor Cybershot, as well as pack with water- and dust-resistance, where Sony and Olympus cameras are known for. With this, it will give way to Xperia phones also a step higher on developing larger camera sensors too as well as focusing more on image processing and software development for camera-eccentric hardware.

RAW capture, Sony can. Refocus tech, Sony can. More manual controls, Sony can. We just don't know when.
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Posted: 2013-10-23 04:21
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I think an important point to remember is Nokia has spent many years working on their camera tech for phones to get to where they are right now. Sony, on the other hand has only been working to integrate their digital imaging tech into mobiles for about 1.5 - 2 years now, maybe less depending on when Kaz managed to get things rolling.

I have no doubt they could put larger sensors into their phones, but that would mean making them thicker like the Nokias. They could definately put xenon flashes into phones - Sony Ericsson has done it before. OIS could most definately be done too - the tech they use on their handycams is amazing.

This is only gen 1 of Sonys first serious push towards dumping their digital imaging heritage into phones. Given how relatively innovative Sony has been in digital imaging these past couple of years I do have to wonder if the next gen of phones will be a minor or major leap over the Z1.

If that earlier rumor about parts of Sony not wanting to produce phones that outperform their entry/mid level cameras is true then I hope Kaz stomps on that promotly and pushes further innovation.
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Posted: 2013-10-23 05:26
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We will see with the upcoming firmware updates and phones on where Sony will be going.

But for the S-Master tech, I believe the reason for that is not the walkman, but because of the cost. Sony headphones with S-Master are priced way higher than headphones without them, and walkman devices aren't exactly cheap either. So I think main reason why that was left out from Xperias was because of cost. They don't want to make the mistake again of putting too expensive devices.

Walkman are pretty much niche devices on their own already, most aimed for audiophiles who had already invested on good pair of headphones and will never use a phone for their music, so even if they did manage to put S-master on xperias without increasing the cost, I highly doubt it will affect walkman sales.
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Posted: 2013-10-23 05:38
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Sony CEO Kaz Hirai will give the CES keynote in Jan:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/[....]eo-kaz-hirai-ces-2014-keynote/
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Posted: 2013-10-23 05:54
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I seem to believe that Kaz will personally unveil the next flagships from now on, like he did on the Z1

I hope we can get more details about the Xperia flagship Tablet
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rency0722
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Posted: 2013-10-23 06:17
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Right. That was I thought though some sorts of camera sensors were made by Sony. In fact, LG G2's 13 MP OIS cam is custom-made by Sony. 13 MP camera from GNote 3 is an IMX135 Exmor-RS sensor, which only enabled 4K recording for Android 4.3

What we need for Sony to make a true cameraphone is to also top it with manual controls. If Cybershot cameras can, Xperia phone should can.

By the way, I was reading all along the article on the hi-res audio on Galaxy Note 3 and LG G2, and in fact, they use Qualcomm WCD9320, which is incorporated on the Snapdragon 800 SoC. This chip is said to deliver 24-bit/192 kHz audio output. In that matter, Xperias with SD800 should also be supporting that hi-res audio.
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Posted: 2013-10-23 06:34
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4K 12-inch tablets are going to be a thing and Japan Display can prove it

Who wants to see the next Xperia tablet with 4K Triluminos display with WhiteMagic and PixelEyes tech? Sounds oozing!
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Posted: 2013-10-23 06:40
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On 2013-10-23 06:34:16, rency0722 wrote:
4K 12-inch tablets are going to be a thing and Japan Display can prove it

Who wants to see the next Xperia tablet with 4K Triluminos display with WhiteMagic and PixelEyes tech? Sounds oozing!


performance won't be ideal, it will be like andoird early life where all the UI is probably laggy.
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