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CrownedAkuma
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^razec
The best is still the iPhone for selfie  LOL
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admad
Joined: May 26, 2005
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From: Poland
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On 2013-09-07 10:08:10, CrownedAkuma wrote:
On 2013-09-07 09:17:32, ZappyDen wrote:
Guys look at this Video Sample of Z1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuPr_4jPG7c
and please comment on "How is the zooming in this video?"
just check it
[ This Message was edited by: ZappyDen on 2013-09-07 08:17 ]
I would like to see the Zoom in photos, in video it was bound to be not so good being digital... :/
Look here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn2yLRNyWmg
This is nokia 1020 zooming during video... definetely better... but the nokia video is always searching for focus, all in all it's a bad video, and the stabilization (taken the fact the the Nokia guy was still, while the Sony guy was continously moving) is better on the Z1..
All in all I prefer the Z1 Video 
look at this taken outside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZAjzwV1yNA
In photos it's also digital. And Sony could have make better zoom in videos, it's just that they apparently don't know how. AFAIK Nokia is the only company that can take advantage of big sensor for zooming in videos...
The 3x clear zoom Sony is advertising is probably something silly. Like You can take a 2MP photo with that only. The same effect as You would crop a 20MP image : |
xell
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On 2013-09-07 11:08:03, razec wrote:
I think this one is at 8mp mode
Not sure if it was mentioned but Superior Auto shoots only in 8 MP, had to switch to Manual to get it up to 20 MP.
Bonus: Some impressions.
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CrownedAkuma
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@xell
Tastyyy
Screen quality??
Audio quality for the speaker?
3x lossless zoom?
Tell us everything you know please 
EDIT: The build quality it's astonishing...
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razec
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On 2013-09-07 11:13:26, admad wrote:
The 3x clear zoom Sony is advertising is probably something silly. Like You can take a 2MP photo with that only. The same effect as You would crop a 20MP image :
I hope you do realize that 808/1020's "lossless" zoom works the same way 
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Sassho
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Just as info - samples and compare by new Galaxy Note 3 with 13mp Exmor RS camera
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/misc/Samsung_GALAXY_Note_3-prev.html
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razec
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Wrong thread, don't see its point being posted here
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evilhomura89
Joined: Apr 24, 2007
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The DK31 magnetic charging dock is not included as a standard accessories right?
[based on the unbocing video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKiRh52T8sI ] |
admad
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On 2013-09-07 11:20:51, razec wrote:
On 2013-09-07 11:13:26, admad wrote:
The 3x clear zoom Sony is advertising is probably something silly. Like You can take a 2MP photo with that only. The same effect as You would crop a 20MP image :
I hope you do realize that 808/1020's "lossless" zoom works the same way
Of coure, but given that fact that 808/1020 sensor is much bigger and can take 38MP photos, the "lossless" zoom is a bit more lossless than Z1, and I don't recall Nokia bragging about it and calling it sth like 3x clear zoom(which annoys me highly because many people beleive now that Z1 zoom is same like optical ...). Besides as mentioned before, Nokia can transfer this zoom to video, in which it's really usefull. You can zoom in on photos and crop on Your computer, but You can't really zoom in on 1080p video can You?
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Sassho
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On 2013-09-07 11:28:02, razec wrote:
Wrong thread, don't see its point being posted here
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maiaramdan
Joined: Dec 13, 2012
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Guys
Some one need to update the
Recently added phones models in the front page
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CrownedAkuma
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On 2013-09-07 11:48:25, admad wrote:
On 2013-09-07 11:20:51, razec wrote:
On 2013-09-07 11:13:26, admad wrote:
The 3x clear zoom Sony is advertising is probably something silly. Like You can take a 2MP photo with that only. The same effect as You would crop a 20MP image :
I hope you do realize that 808/1020's "lossless" zoom works the same way
Of coure, but given that fact that 808/1020 sensor is much bigger and can take 38MP photos, the "lossless" zoom is a bit more lossless than Z1, and I don't recall Nokia bragging about it and calling it sth like 3x clear zoom(which annoys me highly because many people beleive now that Z1 zoom is same like optical ...). Besides as mentioned before, Nokia can transfer this zoom to video, in which it's really usefull. You can zoom in on photos and crop on Your computer, but You can't really zoom in on 1080p video can You?
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2013-09-07 10:49 ]
So much anger? what happened to you? had you been bitten by a scorpion? 
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia1020/
Go to the Nokia Site and see if they are not bragging about their lossless zoom...
The phrase undr NOKIA LUMIA 1020 is "Zoom Reinvented" if this is not bragging...
and then "Zoom. Reinvented. Nokia Pro Camera on the Nokia Lumia 1020 lets you shoot in super high resolution, which means you can zoom in close to your shot after you’ve taken it. Then rotate, reframe, crop and share new images as many times as you want."
Super high resolution? this is really a professional term... It makes me laugh as the word Ultrapixel used by HTC... All the OEMs like to brag about their tech and use misleading words...  Consumer need just to stay focused and be sharp!
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Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
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Hi guys, i breifly went into a AU store today check the Xperia UL.
- The upside is that the Sony logo is here, so AU will probably keep the Sony Logo on the Z1. (The employees still have no clue whether they will sell the Z1 or not.)
- The downside of AU over docomo is their LTE network which is the weakest in Japan. (Not sure what LTE advanced will change as some papers talk about multi carriers integration, but at the moment docomo is better.)
I would like to know what differences I can expect between SO-01F (docomo) and SOL23 (AU).
In particular, does someone know if AU smartphones bootloader is locked and non-unlockable like docomo?
Secondly, the 4g existing or planned band/frequencies are different:
- Docomo: 28 (700Mhz), 19 (800Mhz), 21 (1500Mhz), 1 (2100Mhz)
- AU: 28 (700Mhz), 18 (800Mhz), 11 (1500Mhz), 1 (2100Mhz)
We know that snapdragon 800 itself is able to handle all the bands and more which can be convenient when traveling overseas. When the Z1 comes out, how can I know if the SO-01F and SOL23 models are compatible with all bands/frequencies, or if Sony, docomo or AU have deliberately deactivated certain bands to prevent people getting the maximum out of their phone? What can we learn fro recent phones (Xperia Z, A, UL)?
If you guys also expect other differences, please feel free to share!
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razec
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On 2013-09-07 11:48:25, admad wrote:
Of coure, but given that fact that 808/1020 sensor is much bigger and can take 38MP photos, the "lossless" zoom is a bit more lossless than Z1
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2013-09-07 10:49 ]
Duh we're comparing apples to oranges here, the 1020 had more than 7 times the total resolving pixels in 5MP mode, add to that their oversampling tech of which the Z does not have, and the 3X lossless zoom on the Z1 is barely possible due to the total effective pixels at full res. Besides I will never understand why you're so critical when almost every manufacturers does the same marketing stunt as Sony on almost every new feature they propose to the public. you are being just selectively critical to be frank, as I never saw you getting annoyed with the much more annoying and gimmicky floating touch marketing ploy on the S4, nor the overly proud ultrapixel crap of the HTC One. no phone is perfect, but it's ridiculous that there were people who just keep barking loud every holes they'll spot under the pretense that they are constructively criticizing it and that we fanboys are just being bitter and blind.
and I don't recall Nokia bragging about it and calling it sth like 3x clear zoom(which annoys me highly because many people beleive now that Z1 zoom is same like optical ...)
Either you lived in cave or you never saw Nokia being overly proud of this months ago,
. Besides as mentioned before, Nokia can transfer this zoom to video, in which it's really usefull. You can zoom in on photos and crop on Your computer, but You can't really zoom in on 1080p video can You?
In fairness only nokia had that oversampling zoom tech since N8, if my memory serves me right, even the current crop of smartphones didn't have one. now what's the point?
@Sassho
I got your point mate, I'd wait for some comparisons as well, but TBH I prefer reviews from real imaging sites, I hope they would review the Z1 as well. but posting samples of a different device on this thread is derailing the topic subject. I hope you wouldn't feel offended
PS: My apologies to everyone for derailing this thread with my post.
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-09-07 11:29 ] 10 years at Esato |
Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
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From: 東京
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Oh now, no more Nokia.
Please help me decide between SO-01F and SOL23 if you have some info/ways to check
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